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FLDS attorney challenges Texas count of pregnant minors from polygamous sect [Not 20, but maybe 3]
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 4 25 08 | Brooke Adams

Posted on 04/25/2008 9:49:53 PM PDT by Howdy there

An attorney for FLDS families in Texas today challenged the state's claim of a pervasive pattern of underage girls having children, saying the state's own documents show that just two teenagers in custody are pregnant.

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Of the three teenagers listed as pregnant, Parker said, one is about to turn 18 and another refused to take a pregnancy test, he said.

"That leaves us with one," he said. Based on that list, Parker said, "I challenge the CPS to come forward with the pregnant minors."

Chris Van Deusen, a CPS spokesman, said, "The only thing we can say is we're aware that there are 20 girls who became pregnant, and they were between the ages of 13 and 16.

"That's not to say that there are 20 now, but at the time theyconceived, they were 13, 14, 15 or 16," he said. "That establishes that there is some sexual abuse here."

Parker said the 20 minors the state has identified either as pregnant or mothers actually had children over a 10-year period.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: childabuse; flds; lostboys; polygamy
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To: pepsionice
"Course, I’m not from Texas....but I’m pretty sure on any given day...at least 500 girls under the age of 16...are pregnant."

I am from Texas and you have maybe southeast Houston covered there.

61 posted on 04/26/2008 6:37:48 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: 2harddrive
Actually, until VERY recently, one could MARRY in Texas at the age of 14, with parent’s consent.

An excellent point, however, as polygamous marriages are not legal, this would not help the FLDS men who engaged in sex with minors under the age of consent. These men were engaging in statutory rape.

62 posted on 04/26/2008 6:39:01 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: TheDon
**rolling eyes**
63 posted on 04/26/2008 6:44:22 AM PDT by N8VTXNinWV
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To: Howdy there
Parker also refuted CPS' description of an orderly, calm separation of mothers and children at the coliseum. He said it was "complete pandemonium." As the children, all younger than 5, figured out what was happening, they started screaming and CPS workers had to pry many away from their mothers. "This is inhuman. This is un-American," said Parker, who also said a civil rights lawsuit is possible. He also said CPS assured nursing mothers they would be able to take breast milk to their infants but, as of early Friday, had been given no information on where the children had been taken. They also were told sibling groups would be kept together. Thirteen children from one family were sent to five locations, he said. All the FLDS men and many women, some of whom returned Friday, remain on the ranch. "There is a real singular mind-set at the ranch right now to get these children home," he said.

A rather sad situation. Hopefully, the children will be reunited with their families soon. Unfortunately for them, this will likely devolve into a bonfire of the vanities similiar to the Duke affair.

64 posted on 04/26/2008 6:50:08 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: N8VTXNinWV

Hey, I give recognition where it’s due. They’ve come along way!


65 posted on 04/26/2008 6:51:28 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: Damifino
Are you suggesting that public school teachers ARE religious leaders?

Are you suggesting that public school teachers advocate and conspire to commit welfare fraud or child rape?

Are you suggesting that even if they did, it would excuse what was going on with the FLDS in Texas?

Sort of a “there is evil everywhere, and we can't stamp it all out, so why not ignore it in your own backyard” philosophy of moral equivalence. A typical philosophy held by liberal anti-American trash that hate the government while depending upon it for their welfare checks.

66 posted on 04/26/2008 7:02:23 AM PDT by allmendream (Life begins at the moment of contraception. ;))
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To: xzins; All
Does anyone know how the few boys that remain are picked to remain? Are they the most loyal? The most hard working? Want the most wives?

Just curious as I've not read how the leaders pick which boys don't get kicked out (or worse!).

67 posted on 04/26/2008 7:12:58 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (A good man has come home to San Diego! Thank you Congressman Hunter)
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To: TheDon
Hopefully, the children will be reunited with their families soon.

Hopefully not.

The "families" are twisted cultists of the sickest sort.

68 posted on 04/26/2008 7:22:36 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner
One FLDS member who did testify said she and her husband and their three children form a traditional family and live in a separate house from other sect members. An FLDS expert who testified at the hearing and a former member of the sect say only about half the marriages in the sect are polygamous.

Apparently, not all the FLDS are engaging crime and statutory rape....

69 posted on 04/26/2008 7:26:22 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: Mr. Silverback

So each child there was being abused? Please cite ANY source for your wild slander.

If you do not then you have just lied.


70 posted on 04/26/2008 7:56:11 AM PDT by ArizonaJosie
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To: ArizonaJosie; greyfoxx39

Welcome to FR, but I think I recognize you. In fact if you are not already posting under a different name here, you must have a twin.


71 posted on 04/26/2008 8:24:25 AM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TheDon; humblegunner; colorcountry
Apparently, not all the FLDS are engaging crime and statutory rape....

ROTFL....and is that like being "half-pregnant"?

72 posted on 04/26/2008 8:48:54 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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To: humblegunner; najida

I’m beginning to think he’s employed by the FLDS or their attorneys. Reminds me a whole lot of the paid operatives on the Romney threads earlier this year.


73 posted on 04/26/2008 9:03:14 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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To: TheDon
Apparently, not all the FLDS are engaging crime and statutory rape.... <

Cling to that thought......

74 posted on 04/26/2008 9:11:59 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Are there any WOMEN FReepers who agree that the 1st. Amendment OKs sexual slavery?))
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To: Howdy there

I’m praying for these women. Yes they should have taken their children and escaped. But this cult has been around 75 years, probably these women were raised this way. Even the ones who aren’t underage now, were underage when they were ‘married’ to old men and had their first children. How many abused 14-year-old girls will be brave enough to object to how their 55-year-old husband tells her to raise her children. They are victims too. It makes me sad to see that their children are being taken away. Instead of paying 5 million dollars for the state to take care of these children in mediocre foster care, what about spending that money to help these women be good mothers. These children are young, their mothers didn’t even let anyone abuse them yet. If they learn to live in normal society without these molesters they will be fine. I don’t think we should punish these women who were victimized by this cult. But either way the men who ‘married’ these girls should be thrown in jail and their money should all be taken away for child support for all these kids!


75 posted on 04/26/2008 9:47:56 AM PDT by CatherinePPP
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To: Howdy there

I think I see at least two pairs of sisters (possibly one trio) — and one young cutie who does not seem too happy with her situation...


76 posted on 04/26/2008 9:51:18 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: greyfoxx39

More like innocent... :-)


77 posted on 04/26/2008 10:02:57 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: TheDon

I didn’t realize that “monogamous” people never abused their children.


78 posted on 04/26/2008 10:11:14 AM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: Politicalmom

I’m monogamous and I don’t. I assume you are monogamous as well, but I’ll let you answer for yourself. Considering the number of people who practice monogamy, I would assume the vast majority of those engage in child abuse are monogamous. Surely you aren’t suggesting we round up all the Texan monogamists? :-)


79 posted on 04/26/2008 10:18:53 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: greyfoxx39

Wouldn’t it be better? Is your case of MDS so acute you really hope all the FLDS children are being abused? You got it bad Foxy!


80 posted on 04/26/2008 10:21:25 AM PDT by TheDon
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