Posted on 04/25/2008 12:41:31 PM PDT by Jim W N
Revelations that the March 29 phone call that sparked a raid on a West Texas polygamist compound may be a hoax have led prosecutors to doubt the reason for the original search-and-arrest warrant that granted authorities access to the Yearning For Zion Ranch.
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It’s too late. They cant burn down the compound and “lose” all of the evidence.
They still do, however, have the “he raped me” charges that they can rely on.
I that doesn’t work, plant some weapons.
Defective warrants are usually defective on their face. An otherwise proper warrant is not necessarily defective just because some information it was based on proves inaccurate.
This one is.
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Silly me for thinking polygamy’s illegal.
What you’re saying seems apparent to me, but on another thread I’m being shredded for suggesting it. I thought this was a conservative forum.
What seedy stuff was uncovered “since they went in”?
Before they “went in”, they had stories about older men “marrying” and and then raping young teenaged girls.
They raided and searched the “compound”, detaining children and young teenaged girls (along with some women). They did not arrest any grown men. Their search uncovered: Stories about older men “marrying” and then raping young teenaged girls.
My question all along has been: Why did they arrest the victims instead of the alleged perpetrators?
My guess is all those “Constitutional scholars” and self-righteous “law and order” folks will be lining up to apologize to me now.
Apologize, that’s a good one. They will be lining up to further castigate your rosy rear end, and might just add a few more names to the list. When self righteous is your middle name, apology is not in your vocabulary, sort of like, let me think, oh I know, a democrat.
Agreed. I'm not saying there wasn't a problem at that place, but the State's means are dubious at best. At least it wasn't a Clinton/Janet Reno operation where people are slaughtered by the government.
I, too have been called all sorts of unsavory things for demanding that the government honor the Constitution and that the police actually do some REAL police investigative work before busting down doors.
I suspect that many who claim the mantle of “conservative” are actually xenophoboic purveyors of totalitarianism (as long as said totalitarianism is practiced on “others”, and not on “good citizens” such as they).
No you didn’t.
You flatly stated “They got the warrant in good faith...” It is the first clause in the first sentence in your post.
Of course those of you who take the moral high ground think it was just fine and dandy, even now with still vitually no proof of wrong doing you are still saying it was alright because in the words of some of the worlds most famous communists "the ends justifies the means", or in your wimp words "Its ok if the warrant was false because some children were involved". What fake and false conservatives you are.
This is true. At least this group of folks have been allowed to live (so far).
That makes these Texas police only about half as bad as the FBI (so far).
He’s been paying attention the last 40 years.
As to separated families: Both the men and women in these cases are law breakers. (Polygamy is against the law, as you may recall.) They should have been in jail long ago, which of course would entail the state taking the children from them. I don't see a problem.
As to the mass DNA testing: Heck, the kids didn't even know who their own parents were. I'd say the DNA testing was called for.
Questioned hundreds of people: Not a problem for the aforementioned reasons.
The self-righteous listen only to their own certainties, and in that there is no difference whether they are on the Left or on the Right politically. They won’t apologize to anyone! The raid was justified BECAUSE I SAY SO!
Thank you.
I only wish you had been posting to the thread last week where I and maybe two others were being called every name in the book because we wouldn’t blindly follow the government’s “line” on this one.
“It’s for the children” seems to be a mantra that makes many folks turn off thier minds and roll over and take whatever tyrannical behavior the government wants to dish out.
How is pulling a 3 month old off of it’s mother’s breast doing it a favor? I think La Leche League should be getting involved in this.
They got the warrant in good faith. That is what they have said. So if you have evidence that is different than that, well bring it forward.
Don’t know if this is relavent but,
#32) Virginia v. Moore (decided April 23, 2008)
Justice Antonin Scalia authored the unanimous opinion in favor of Virginia. David Moore was pulled over by Portsmouth, Va., police for driving on a suspended license. He was also put into custody, contrary to state law for that misdemeanor violation, and searched. Upon the search, police found 16 grams of crack cocaine. Moore argued the search was unreasonable under Virginia law and therefore was a violation of his Fourth Amendment rights. The court disagreed with Justice Scalia writing, “We reaffirm against a novel challenge what we have signaled for more than half a century. When officers have probable cause to believe that a person has committed a crime in their presence, the Fourth Amendment permits them to make an arrest and to search the suspect in order to safeguard evidence and ensure their own safety.”
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