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1 posted on 04/25/2008 6:22:46 AM PDT by Dallas
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To: Dallas

Once again the police get away with murder. Why would anyone be surprised?


66 posted on 04/25/2008 8:20:28 AM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: Dallas
Was there reasonable doubt?

From the Times Justice Arthur J. Cooperman, who delivered the verdict, said many of the prosecution’s witnesses, including Mr. Bell’s friends and the two wounded victims, were simply not believable. “At times, the testimony of those witnesses just didn’t make sense,” he said."

I didn't see the facts in this, but contradictions can give a reasonable doubt. I'm biased towards the defense (in all matters). When there's a tossup, I lean toward them.

91 posted on 04/25/2008 9:22:21 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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Added Bishop Lester Williams: "How can you celebrate officers who are supposed to take care of you and are now going to jail, if that is the case? And then how can you celebrate if they don't go to jail. The loss that that family will [have to] endure [will last] forever, so there is no victory. We have to sit down and make sure this does not happen again."

As blacks continue to be their own worst enemy.

Apparently there's nothing wrong with threatening people and running over police officers as long as you're black.

How is this goof going to make sure this never happens again when he continues to endorse criminal behavior?

99 posted on 04/25/2008 10:01:26 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Utter bs. The cops should have been fried. If you pulled the same stunt, and claimed you overheard someone say “get my gun,” and their turned out not to be a gun after you emptied 50 rounds into some guys you would be getting fitted for a needle.


100 posted on 04/25/2008 10:16:24 AM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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I can just imagine what the Reverend Sharpton is gearing up for now, rubbing his hands together with a huge smile on his face...........


102 posted on 04/25/2008 10:34:51 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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More from AP via Yahoo!

Justice Arthur Cooperman delivered the verdict in a packed Queens courtroom. The officers, complaining that pretrial publicity had unfairly painted them as cold-blooded killers, opted to have the judge decide the case rather than a jury.

Cooperman indicated that the police officers' version of events was more credible than the victims' version. "The people have not proved beyond a reasonable doubt that each defendant was not justified" in firing, he said.

The nearly two-month trial was marked by deeply divergent accounts of the night.

The defense painted the victims as drunken thugs who the officers believed were armed and dangerous. Prosecutors sought to convince the judge that the victims had been minding their own business, and that the officers were inept, trigger-happy aggressors.

None of the officers took the witness stand in his own defense. Instead, Cooperman heard transcripts of the officers testifying before a grand jury, saying they believed they had good reason to use deadly force. The judge also heard testimony from Bell's two injured companions, who insisted the maelstrom erupted without warning.

Both sides were consistent on one point: The utter chaos surrounding the last moments of Bell's life.

"It happened so quick," Isnora said in his grand jury testimony. "It was like the last thing I ever wanted to do."

Bell's companions — Trent Benefield and Joseph Guzman — also offered dramatic testimony about the episode. Benefield and Guzman were both wounded; Guzman still has four bullets lodged in his body.

Referring to Isnora, Guzman said, "This dude is shooting like he's crazy, like he's out of his mind."

The victims and shooters were set on a fateful collision course by a pair of innocuous decisions: Bell's to have a last-minute bachelor party at Kalua Cabaret, and the undercover detectives' to investigate reports of prostitution at the club.

As the club closed around 4 a.m., Sanchez and Isnora claimed they overheard Bell and his friends first flirt with women, then taunt a stranger who responded by putting his right hand in his pocket as if he had a gun. Guzman, they testified, said, "Yo, go get my gun" — something Bell's friends denied.

Isnora said he decided to arm himself, call for backup — "It's getting hot," he told his supervisor — and tail Bell, Guzman and Benefield as they went around the corner and got into Bell's car. He claimed that after warning the men to halt, Bell pulled away, bumped him and rammed an unmarked police van that converged on the scene with Oliver at the wheel.

The detective also alleged that Guzman made a sudden move as if he were reaching for a gun.

"I yelled 'Gun!' and fired," he said. "In my mind, I knew (Guzman) had a gun."

Benefield and Guzman testified that there were no orders. Instead, Guzman said, Isnora "appeared out of nowhere" with a gun drawn and shot him in the shoulder — the first of 16 shots to enter his body.

"That's all there was — gunfire," he said. "There wasn't nothing else."

With tires screeching, glass breaking and bullets flying, the officers claimed that they believed they were the ones under fire. Oliver responded by emptying his semiautomatic pistol, reloading, and emptying it again, as the supervisor sought cover.

The truth emerged when the smoke cleared: There was no weapon inside Bell's blood-splattered car.
103 posted on 04/25/2008 10:37:42 AM PDT by BJClinton (I will make a fortune when I figure out how to slap someone through standard TCP/IP.)
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DE-ARM ALL COPS!!!


140 posted on 04/25/2008 3:00:03 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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Somehow, someway, the MSM will continue to prosecute and persecute the cops until they are able to cause a riot. Irresponsible and biased reporting, along with Sharpton, et al, against the police will eventually be the fuel for problems.
142 posted on 04/25/2008 4:26:05 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead, then kill 'em again!)
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WHY are NYC cops so PERSISTANTLY trigger-happy? Could it be that because of the gun bans in their state, they are hyper-sensitive to the mere MENTION of them, let alone SIGHT? Cowards.


147 posted on 04/25/2008 7:06:34 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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Most people like to think the LA Riot was because of Rodney King. Actually, there were other factors involved. Rodney King beating just broke the camel's hump. In fact, it was because of tensions between Blacks and Koreans. Many Koreans owned businesses in Black areas and it caused a lot resentment because they were running businesses. Latasha Harlins got shot in a store by a Korean storeowner after she was caught shoplifting juice in 1991.

Wikipedia-Latasha Harlins
Slain Girl Was Not Stealing Juice, Police Say Shooting: The incident in which the 15-year-old was killed by a market owner was captured on a security system videotape.
Merchant Charged in Girl's Fatal Shooting 911, TV Tapes Tell Different Tales in Killing of Teen-Ager Murder trial: The Korean store owner told a police operator that the black girl had tried to take money. But the security recording conflicts with that version.
152 posted on 04/25/2008 8:18:19 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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Oliver fired 31 shots in the incident, Isnora fired 11, and Cooper fired four times.
Gotta get at least two of these guys more time at the range.
158 posted on 04/25/2008 10:39:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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Ambivalent on this one.


161 posted on 04/25/2008 11:45:18 PM PDT by wardaddy (I wish a real conservative had the balls to win that The Witch does)
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It’s 11:30pm on Saturday night. No “riots” at all, as some expected. Should I still be waiting for them to start?


169 posted on 04/26/2008 8:34:21 PM PDT by richmwill
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so if the blacks riot, will it drive down property values to make my rent cheaper?


178 posted on 04/26/2008 10:40:06 PM PDT by rightwinggoth
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Now that the courts ‘legally’ cleared the cops of this situation, the family will more than likely go back to court and go for a civil suit. I hope the family gets NOTHING. They don’t deserved it.


185 posted on 04/28/2008 6:40:27 PM PDT by antiunion person (President McCain, what a disgusting phrase.)
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