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Cops Acquitted In Sean Bell Shooting Death
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Posted on 04/25/2008 6:22:46 AM PDT by Dallas

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To: Dallas

Ambivalent on this one.


161 posted on 04/25/2008 11:45:18 PM PDT by wardaddy (I wish a real conservative had the balls to win that The Witch does)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
Oh, they (cops) lie. Big time. Prosecutors and judges know it. They are not stupid.

And so do prosecutors and judges.

162 posted on 04/26/2008 1:57:43 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: stylin19a

Or the fact that two of the cops were black made Rev Al’s normal modus operandi inoperable.


163 posted on 04/26/2008 3:18:52 AM PDT by DB
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To: Ptarmigan

I don’t know the facts of this story.

But if the car was still moving, they probably would have continued firing until it stopped. And that could have easily been fifty shots later.


164 posted on 04/26/2008 3:24:43 AM PDT by DB
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To: SeaHawkFan
You think cops don't lie to protect themselves and their "brothers"?

Oh yeah. Cops are all liars, (especially the one hit twice by a car) and Criminals are innocent little angels. Tell me how does one fake injuries of getting hit twice by a car? Must have had hit liar cop friends beat him up with a bumper huh?

165 posted on 04/26/2008 7:36:33 AM PDT by Bommer
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To: jersey117

“Probably not. I’m sure that’s why the judge gave the cops a total pass.”

They may have not been deserving of prison, but those cops definitely need to be fired for gross incompetence for their “spray-and-pray” reaction to the situation.


166 posted on 04/26/2008 10:17:41 AM PDT by neutronsgalore (Nature, getting rid of Muslims one tsunami at a time.)
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I noticed that Michael Oliver is Lebanese, Gescard Isnora is half Black and some other ethnic group. I don’t know where the last name Isnora is from, let alone Gescard. Marc Cooper is Black.


167 posted on 04/26/2008 12:22:18 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: wideawake
Actually, if the situation were more calm, one well placed round would have stopped the car. A direct shot to the radiator wound cause the car to almost instantly overheat, causing severe engine damage, but not harming anyone in the vehicle. There is one factor, which is more important than the stability of the situation.

In order for this to be effective, one has to be precise in the aim, something this situation did not allow, however, shooting a tire would have been a viable option, but the car would careen out of control, thus causing more damage. The only remaining option is to stop the vehicle by harsher means. So, yes this situation justified the use of all of those rounds.

168 posted on 04/26/2008 5:47:34 PM PDT by 53543freedom
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To: Dallas

It’s 11:30pm on Saturday night. No “riots” at all, as some expected. Should I still be waiting for them to start?


169 posted on 04/26/2008 8:34:21 PM PDT by richmwill
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To: BJClinton

I am a little surprised that the defense was able to introduce the Grand Jury testimony without violating the hearsay rules. Usually, if a witness is available you can’t bring in a prior statement without calling them to the stand to face cross examination. So, here it appears that a judge decided to believe the police officers testimony (whose demeanors he didn’t get to observe and who it sounds like were not cross examined) over the plaintiff’s witnesses who actually gave testimony in open court. If the DA agreed to let those transcripts in then that was a huge mistake. You always want the defendant to be forced to testify in order to get their story before the court.


170 posted on 04/26/2008 8:39:59 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: Bommer

I’ve been involved in dozens of cases defending actions of the police. I can’t think of a single instance where every single police officer involved did not lie to everyone—including (or especially) their own attorneys—from the beginning to the end of a case. It’s really gotten so bad that everyone involved in the court system knows that they cannot believe anything a cop says. Everything, everything, everything, is embellished or an outright falsehood. It does not make the task of convicting real criminals any easier and it’s part of the reason so many criminals are not convicted—no one believes the cops anymore.

It’s a given in every courtroom in this country that no judge, prosecutor, defense attorney, plaintiff’s attorney, or civil defense attorney believes anything a cop will say in court.


171 posted on 04/26/2008 8:57:53 PM PDT by Ilya Mourometz
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To: Bommer
Oh yeah. Cops are all liars, (especially the one hit twice by a car) and Criminals are innocent little angels.

It's pathetic, but some idiots believe that. 

172 posted on 04/26/2008 9:02:08 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Ilya Mourometz

That’s the biggest load of BS I have ever seen posted here.


173 posted on 04/26/2008 9:03:57 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: DB

Here are maps and photos of the crime scene with the original cars in place. Click photos one through ten at the top of the page.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/27/nyregion/20061129_SHOOTING_GRAPHIC.html


174 posted on 04/26/2008 9:06:13 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: 53543freedom
Shooting the radiator won't cause the car “to almost instantly overheat”. In addition the car was cold as they just got in and started it. They could have driven the car several minutes without a functioning radiator before it would have began overheating much less disabled the car.
175 posted on 04/26/2008 9:33:32 PM PDT by DB
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To: BunnySlippers

Thank you.


176 posted on 04/26/2008 9:33:49 PM PDT by DB
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To: BunnySlippers

I do know that if I were in a car and people in street clothes (or worse) with guns approached me I do whatever I had to get out of there. Stopping and asking questions isn’t an option.


177 posted on 04/26/2008 9:35:55 PM PDT by DB
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To: Dallas

so if the blacks riot, will it drive down property values to make my rent cheaper?


178 posted on 04/26/2008 10:40:06 PM PDT by rightwinggoth
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To: jersey117

LOL she gets 1 percent of the black vote vs. Obama... Obviously the blacks are only voting for Obama because of the issues /s


179 posted on 04/27/2008 2:11:59 AM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Prepare to do your time as Corvee labor on the Plantation of Barack and Michell Obama.)
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To: Ilya Mourometz

My friends father is a DA back home, and says the same thing. My friend (his son) used to be a cop, and was forced out because he wouldn’t cover up a couple of cop’s drunk driving.


180 posted on 04/27/2008 9:34:59 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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