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Cops Acquitted In Sean Bell Shooting Death
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Posted on 04/25/2008 6:22:46 AM PDT by Dallas

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To: Dallas
I think in police academy training they are taught to shoot as many bullets as high as they can count:
31, 11, 4...
Detectives Michael Oliver, left, Gescard Isnora and Marc Cooper

141 posted on 04/25/2008 4:02:55 PM PDT by frankjr
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To: Dallas
Somehow, someway, the MSM will continue to prosecute and persecute the cops until they are able to cause a riot. Irresponsible and biased reporting, along with Sharpton, et al, against the police will eventually be the fuel for problems.
142 posted on 04/25/2008 4:26:05 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead, then kill 'em again!)
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To: Impy
50 shots.

so what? That will teach people not to smash into police cars fleeing from the police when ordered to stop. The police had no choice but to use overwhelming force. I am grateful the police will not go to prison for simply doing their job.

143 posted on 04/25/2008 4:35:30 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Condor51; jersey117

>Believe it or not, this is a civilized city.

Bawahahaha! LOL, oh that is rich.
Civilized, as in where a cop pours 31 shots into an unarmed man.


144 posted on 04/25/2008 6:52:22 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Bommer

Please. to fire of 31 rounds with that firearm is a lot of work.

He repeatedly reloaded.
If that cop was white, there would be rioting right now.

I could have hit 15 -20 targets with that many rounds.


145 posted on 04/25/2008 6:57:44 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: wideawake

No, no, no. ;)

If you have the facts, beat on the facts.
If you have the Law, beat on the Law.

If you have nothing, beat on the table.

(just how I learned it)


146 posted on 04/25/2008 7:01:46 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: Dallas

WHY are NYC cops so PERSISTANTLY trigger-happy? Could it be that because of the gun bans in their state, they are hyper-sensitive to the mere MENTION of them, let alone SIGHT? Cowards.


147 posted on 04/25/2008 7:06:34 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: wideawake

No marriage license? I hadn’t heard that little detail.

Now Bell’s father is going to file a $50 million lawsuit against the City.

So “Mrs.” Bell will not share in the loot, I presume, since she decided to live with and have a child with the victim without benefit of matrimony.

Too bad.


148 posted on 04/25/2008 7:31:13 PM PDT by Palladin (Pennsylvania: guns, religion, liberty, and Nobama.)
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To: Smogger

Yes much better to believe the criminals than the cops because every cop is a liar, a crok and a murderer!


149 posted on 04/25/2008 7:56:11 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: bill1952
Please. to fire of 31 rounds with that firearm is a lot of work. He repeatedly reloaded. If that cop was white, there would be rioting right now.

The cop that fired 31 shots WAS WHITE! Waiting on the riots!

150 posted on 04/25/2008 8:00:53 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: Smogger; wideawake
Please allow me to referee this argument. I beg you. This is degenerating into the same lame debate that one could find on the NY Daily News blog.

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Smogger: you are right. If some black (or brown, orange, or purple with lavendar poke a dots) guys were charging at me or anyone else here wearing T-shirts and jeans and waving a gun, we would all floor the car and try to get out of there.

wideawake: You are right. These cops have a tough job. They risk their lives dealing with thugs, gang bangers, gang members who are armed to the teeth and have nothing to lose. In order to keep us safe. And for what? $22,000 starting salary in the NYPD. God bless em. 99% of cops are good people who are just trying to do their job and protect the community and get a paycheck to bring home to their family.

Are there a couple of dozen yahoos who get off on a power trip in each dept. and have emotional issues and enjoy messing with people? Sure. We are dealing with humans not robots. (FWIW, I don't think these guys fall into that category)

Here's the point. I don't blame the cops. I don't blame Sean Bell and his friends. I'm sick of the sanctimonious folks who say "why was he in a strip club". If that was against the law, then every single buddy of mine...doctors, lawyers, engineers, business owners...would have been shot dead at their bachelor party. Frankly, this party was lame in comparison. I could tell you some interesting stories of what happens at a real bachelor party.

HERE'S WHO IS TO BLAME:

The dumbass supervisor/lawmakers/police brass who thought it would be a good idea to send a bunch of Gubmint agents armed with weapons into a club dressed as hoodlums to try to arrest some dudes for buying a bag of pot or paying $20 for oral sex.

Those dummies should be indicted.

It's a recipe for disaster. They will claim to be shocked....shocked I tell you...when it ends in tragedy.

151 posted on 04/25/2008 8:06:13 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Dallas
Most people like to think the LA Riot was because of Rodney King. Actually, there were other factors involved. Rodney King beating just broke the camel's hump. In fact, it was because of tensions between Blacks and Koreans. Many Koreans owned businesses in Black areas and it caused a lot resentment because they were running businesses. Latasha Harlins got shot in a store by a Korean storeowner after she was caught shoplifting juice in 1991.

Wikipedia-Latasha Harlins
Slain Girl Was Not Stealing Juice, Police Say Shooting: The incident in which the 15-year-old was killed by a market owner was captured on a security system videotape.
Merchant Charged in Girl's Fatal Shooting 911, TV Tapes Tell Different Tales in Killing of Teen-Ager Murder trial: The Korean store owner told a police operator that the black girl had tried to take money. But the security recording conflicts with that version.
152 posted on 04/25/2008 8:18:19 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
The dumbass supervisor/lawmakers/police brass who thought it would be a good idea to send a bunch of Gubmint agents armed with weapons into a club dressed as hoodlums to try to arrest some dudes for buying a bag of pot or paying $20 for oral sex.

Those dummies should be indicted.

Yes, it is the higher ups who are the problem. The police were following orders from them. I have heard that police chief and officers have conflicts. However, I do see firing 50 shots as too much though. I wonder how many of the bullets hit Sean Bell?
153 posted on 04/25/2008 8:22:28 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Bunnies=Sodomites)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

The reason there was no jury is because the cops didn’t want one and knew that the prosecutor and judge didn’t want a conviction. A jury could have screwed up their plans and actually convicted them.

Let this be a lesson. If a prosecutor doesn’t want a conviction, he’s not going to get one.

The real truth will come out in the civil trial that is sure to follow.


154 posted on 04/25/2008 8:44:43 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Bommer; 4yearlurker
Especially when all you do is suck off the sensationalism titles and not know the reason WHY they shot at him! 2 charges of attempted vehicular manslaughter of a police officer. Still want to talk about equality?

You think cops don't lie to protect themselves and their "brothers"?

155 posted on 04/25/2008 8:47:20 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Ptarmigan

I’m glad that we as FReepers are starting to make sense of this senseless tragedy.

The moral of the story is the STATE should not use our tax dollars to send 3 20 something year old Gubmint agents into a bachelor party/seedy club armed to the teeth with taxpayer paid weapons and salaries, dressed in blue jeans and t-shirts to arrest citizens for marijuana or oral sex.

Blah, blah, blah....greater good, drugs bad, hookers illegal, yada, yada, yada......

I hope they are proud. 3 brave cops lives are ruined forever. Two girls will never know their dad.

But the STATE almost busted citizens for weed and oral sex for money. It was worth a shot.

It just didn’t go quite as planned. The dude who had his brains splattered on his Nissan Altima seats should have stopped to ask the guys wearing jeans and a sweatshirt whether they were gubmint law enforcement officials first..

That’s what all of us would do if some black dude in jeans charged at us with a gun. Roll down the windows and say “sir, are you a police officer?”

Gimme a break.


156 posted on 04/25/2008 9:22:03 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Oh, they lie. Big time. Prosecutors and judges know it. They are not stupid.

It’s the worst kept secret since the Bay of Pigs invasion.

If your job and pension were on the line, you would lie too.


157 posted on 04/25/2008 10:00:31 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: neverdem
Oliver fired 31 shots in the incident, Isnora fired 11, and Cooper fired four times.
Gotta get at least two of these guys more time at the range.
158 posted on 04/25/2008 10:39:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv
Oliver fired 31 shots in the incident,

That's a lot of bullets... Automatic weapon?

159 posted on 04/25/2008 10:51:52 PM PDT by John123 (Fluoride is NOT a neuro-toxin. It is a cavity fighter in spite of NO PEER Reviewed PROOF!)
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To: John123

Or maybe he has seven holsters, or more than a couple of clips... :’)


160 posted on 04/25/2008 11:00:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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