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25 mothers taken from FLDS ranch now believed to be minors
Chron.com ^ | 4-24-08 | AP

Posted on 04/24/2008 3:01:56 PM PDT by Politicalmom

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To: MayflowerMadam; barkeep

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2006068/posts#12

Post #24 by Barkeep - and the figure was 27 boys - don’t know the source but barkeep has done great research.


41 posted on 04/24/2008 5:19:06 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: CindyDawg

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2006068/posts#12

Of the 460+ children only 27 are boys - so the question has to be what happened to all the boy babies - were they aborted or are they part of the *LOST BOYS* banished from the cult?


42 posted on 04/24/2008 5:22:09 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle

Older boys may have left but what is the ratio of say... 4 y/o and under?


43 posted on 04/24/2008 5:23:58 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: sodpoodle; MayflowerMadam; barkeep; CindyDawg

There are two dozen older boys at a ranch in Amarillo.

http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695271197,00.html


44 posted on 04/24/2008 5:26:08 PM PDT by Howdy there
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To: Politicalmom

17 is the age of consent in Texas. So while they may technically be minors, it might not have been against the law for them to be sexually active.

We will have to see how it pans out.


45 posted on 04/24/2008 5:27:41 PM PDT by Howdy there
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To: Politicalmom

46 posted on 04/24/2008 5:27:46 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (NO I don't tag sarcasm. Why are you asking?)
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To: CindyDawg

I don’t have all the data and I apologize - will do some research myself...In the interim, here’s everything you ever wanted to know about FDLS

http://www.rickross.com/groups/polygamy.html


47 posted on 04/24/2008 5:27:49 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: freeandfreezing

“Actually, their leader was sentenced as an accomplice to rape because he arranged the marriage of a 19 year old boy to a 14 year old girl. I’m certainly not defending the guy, but you should at least get the facts right.”


“this is about a raid on a cult that is known to rape female children in what are called “marriage” ceremonies.

It is what their leader was just sentenced for in Utah five months ago”

My facts are right on, rape, marriage ceremony, conviction, this is a practice of the cult.

COURT TV http://www.courttv.com/trials/jeffs/092507_verdict_ctv.html

“ST. GEORGE, Utah — A jury found polygamous sect leader Warren Jeffs guilty Tuesday of forcing a 14-year-old to marry and have sex with her 19-year-old cousin against her will.

Jeffs, 51, was convicted of two counts of rape as an accomplice for his role in the arranged marriage of Elissa Wall and Allen Steed in 2001. He faces five years to life in prison on each count when he is sentenced Nov. 20.”

In Arizona he is facing more of the same.

“KINGMAN, Ariz. — Polygamist sect leader Warren Jeffs pleaded not guilty Wednesday to sex charges stemming from the arranged marriages of two teenage girls to older men.”

“Jeffs is charged in Arizona as an accomplice with four counts of incest and four counts of sexual contact with a minor in an indictment issued last year. He also was arraigned on two additional counts of sexual conduct with a minor and one count of conspiracy to conduct sexual conduct with a minor from a case filed in 2005.


48 posted on 04/24/2008 5:27:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sons of Helaman- uniformed FLDS who enter houses without knocking and report novels, computers,TVs)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Sir Alexander Dane: Could they be the miners?
Fred Kwan: Sure, they’re like three years old.
Sir Alexander Dane: MINERS, not MINORS.
Fred Kwan: You lost me.


49 posted on 04/24/2008 5:30:32 PM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: Howdy there

I know. I was just asking what the girl to boy ratio was for the little ones. There was a court link somewhere listing all the kids. I’ll try to find it later...


50 posted on 04/24/2008 5:32:15 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: colorcountry
I'm shocked! Shocked, I say!!!
51 posted on 04/24/2008 5:33:18 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Howdy there

They are MOTHERS. If they are 18 or under the only way that statutory rape isn’t involved is if their babies are udner 3 months old.

What do you think the chances are of those 25 girls all having infants under 3 months?


52 posted on 04/24/2008 5:34:13 PM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: CindyDawg

Ping me if you do find that, I’d be interested.


53 posted on 04/24/2008 5:36:01 PM PDT by Howdy there
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To: Borges
Thank you, Borges.

However, the defenders of drooling cultists who rape children in the name of their false deity will never possess that grace of character.

54 posted on 04/24/2008 5:37:48 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: CindyDawg

I have been looking for that for a week. I wanted to count.

Could you let me know if you find it, please?


55 posted on 04/24/2008 5:38:17 PM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: Puddleglum

I understand that Texas does not require birth certificates (or some similar complication)


Birth certificates for what?........ I’m not sure that any of these mothers mentioned in this article were even born in Texas. I read some article that mentioned that the children under five didn’t have birth certificates. I don’t know if that meant all of them or just some of them. Who knows with this situation what the truth is at this point......


56 posted on 04/24/2008 5:40:30 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: Politicalmom

That is a very narrow window of possibility, I will agree.


57 posted on 04/24/2008 5:41:42 PM PDT by Howdy there
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To: Neoliberalnot

Have any of the girls complained to the authorities about being forced into pregnancy by elderly lechers? No? Then evidently their condition was a choice they were able to make. Something the girls in this cult could not have done—make choices.


58 posted on 04/24/2008 5:43:35 PM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: swain_forkbeard
Is motherhood now against the law?

Please name for me one person who has been arrrested on charges of "motherhood."

Having a child is obviously not against the law.

Raping a 14 year old is, however, against the law.

It is illegal, and every adult male at YFZ who engaged in such assaults should spend the rest of his miserable days - may they be short and painful! - in prison.

59 posted on 04/24/2008 5:43:35 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: TalBlack

” know nothing about this cult but I suspect that its practices and rituals are designed to serve someone other than God. That being said, the attitude expressed in the abvove quote is one that can turn around and bite us all on the ass someday real soon.”


You should learn something about the cult. That being said,you should learn something about the cult and you will understand why the above quote is so appropriate.


60 posted on 04/24/2008 5:50:02 PM PDT by ansel12 (Sons of Helaman- uniformed FLDS who enter houses without knocking and report novels, computers,TVs)
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