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To: Politicalmom

You never respond to points brought up in a reply. Your default position is to go home the the salacious and prurient rehash of details not yet sourced creditably. For you to ignore what I have said and try to project the most base intentions on me, smacks of being shrill. Do you expect me to respond to:

“I guess if you had seen a whole gaggle of little rape victims, and a bunch of children who couldn’t identify their parents, you would have tipped your hat and left the rapists to get on with it.”

or ignore it and being smeared by my silence? It’s kind of like me asking you when you quit poisoning your parents.

This particular topic, IMO, should be posted and replied to as a Wikipedia entry. Source the statements, to be fact checked.

And yes,:

“If they had dragged the men off (illegal), or even asked them to leave, y’all would be screaming about THAT.”

If it were done illegally, yes I would protest THAT. For the government to use any means to justify an end, is fascism.

For a site like Freerepublic to have so many fascists posting on it surprises me. I kind of got the idea that this was a law and order crowd. It won’t keep me from lurking and posting on occasion.


153 posted on 04/23/2008 7:07:09 AM PDT by burroak
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To: burroak

Can you please explain what is “facist” about executing a valid (and lawful) warrant?


156 posted on 04/23/2008 7:13:31 AM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: burroak

I did address your points...such as they were.

You, without proof, claim that Texas didn’t do this “the right way”.

I claim that they followed established law, and covered their bases. Two search warrants AND an unnecessary court order proves that.

The fact that there are multiple pregnant children, and a temple doucument listing underage “marriages” is CERTAINLY sourced creditably, using court documents.


178 posted on 04/23/2008 8:49:14 AM PDT by Politicalmom (The children were taken because they were either being raised to be raped, or raised to be a rapist.)
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To: burroak
Don't give up on this site burroak.

You just ran into an emotional meat grinder here.

I've been called everything under the sun over the past week. But, when I see even one reasoned post it's enough. And when I find myself not squelched or banned even though my position is anything but popular then that speaks well of the site monitors. And, heck maybe I'm in the wrong here, I donno.

If this were any other site and your position was as unpopular as it is, they likely would have banned you. Just go to kos or huff post or, actually any liberal site, and see how peeps just get labeled troll and banned for presenting nothing more than facts which contradict the party line.

Peeps are mixing up concerns for due process with support for evil. Or they aren't mixing them up but just don't care to hear about due process where they think something bad is happening to children. As a parent I can understand this reaction. And for this reason while I believe there are a lot of constitutional problems with what went down in TX, I'm happy it happened. And I'd wish it to happen again and I'd again question the governments actions. Come on, did you ever cheer when Jack Bauer ran roughshod over suspected terrorists and their constitutional rights in the 24 series? Even after saving the whole of the USA though I'd still have Jack prosecuted for violating the constitution - hoping the whole time for a presidential pardon or something.

Actually, I'm assuming something. I'm assuming that children were in fact raped. I have yet to see proof of this fact. I have yet to be provided with:
Who was raped? By whom was she raped? How old was she? How old was he? When did this happen? Did the other mothers know of this happening? Was this a common practice? If so who else?

Merely seeing a child underage who is pregnant is not enough. The father could also be underage. So the mere fact of underage pregnancy is not proof certain of the fact of rape. My gut says that bad stuff was happening out there. I'd bet 50 to 1 that evidence will ultimately reveal that child abuse was occurring. But my gut is not evidence. And this is the problem I have with the raid and the wholesale taking of children from their parents. I want to see concrete evidence, specific to this case, not some book written by a former member or some other collateral source regarding what happened in the past.

185 posted on 04/23/2008 9:30:28 AM PDT by Aragon (SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE)
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To: burroak

Are you suggesting that people who disagree with you are fascist? Name calling doesn’t make your position any stronger.

susie


213 posted on 04/23/2008 2:18:38 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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