Posted on 04/22/2008 3:40:19 PM PDT by BGHater
Apparently this is off of Nancy Grace tonight:
SUSAN ROESGEN: Got to say something about the toys. We’ve been told by a Warren Jeffs biographer, people who’ve studied his patterns and his rules there that he doesn’t like toys, that he outlawed toys, that the only kind of toys he would let the kids have would be trampolines, and we know for a fact, Nancy, that when those children were taken here to the coliseum behind me, the volunteers who came to help the children and make them feel at home showed them crayons and the kids didn’t even know what a crayon was.
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What is this guy, the Bergermeister Meisterberger? (Obscure reference from Santa Claus is Coming to Town.....)
George Mason.
Fine. I’ll just have to respect you for some of your other qualities that I like. :D
in an answer yes....with regards to validity of the warrant
and the evidence obtained with faluty warrant
and it will take a Fed judge to rule this probably....some state robe will probably punt it
now a crafty county attorney-AUSA might be able to wiggle some of what they found into evidence
some sort of plain sight or preponderence or collateral cause argument
Oh, sad....
You know, kids can play, and do very well without actual toys.......but crayons seem *ahem* elementary....
My question the local sheriff claims to have had an informant on the ranch for the last 4 years if this was going on why did not the sheriff take action one case at a time.
if it was and the sheriff ignored it he should be shot if not then the lying needs to stop
Having run into him on abortion threads, I can tell you he has formidible reasoning capacity. But this thread was a bit over the top.
As it should be
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Kids have too many toys today. They expect to be entertained. We used to find our own. A barrel to walk, trees to climb, mowed grass to build stuff with...This is a none issue as for as I’m concerned. I know it wasn’t funny but I had to chuckle when I read that they gave the girls dolls. If what is reported is true...I would have ran the other way if someone wanted me to play more house:’)
What topic? We don't have a ping list for JUST the FLDS situation. I have been trying to keep all the threads I see sorted by adding "FLDS" or "Polygamy" as a keyword.
If that is the only topic wanted, that will bring up more threads than you can shake a stick at ;)
But a ping list would be great.... PM, feel free to start a ping list...if you like I will FM the Inmans to FM you if they want on a separate list.
I wondered why she was taken to a clinic also. I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it though. If she did go, CPS knows by now.
Then why’d you bring up the legal age of marriage in NH and NC?
Not much math is needed here. Sorry. All you need to be able to do is subtract 13 from 50 or add 1 plus 7.
If some old geezer tells me he disapproves of my children having toys, I’m going to tell him to take a flying leap.
Is that a tenet of the “religion”?
That is just nuts.
since when, you can’t even search a hotel like that. Each address needs its own warrant. I have seen local police in Virginia get tripped up by that. This is just one of the problems that are going to come up at trial.
You know I’ve been bored without my beloved FRed ping list....
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You know, an interesting thing has happened on these threads.
People have been slamming the government for not handling this *properly*. They keep saying that the government should have collected more evidence. Some have suggested wire tapping and infiltration.
Now here we have a situation where infiltration has happened and now what are we hearing? Criticism of why it was let go for some long.
The government is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't. This goes to show that for the government haters, NOTHING the government can do is right, ever, Even when the government does what the haters have suggested, its being castigated for it.
The problems with an informant is that they cannot make it obvious that they are collecting information. Not only would that tip the leaders off, they'd very likely be taking their lives into their hands.
So they just have to lay low and collect what they can as the opportunity presents itself.
Now if they did start dealing with it one at a time, as it happened, that would certainly tip off the leaders as well, again rendering the informant ineffective.
LOL
You complain about some people prejudging this case, and yet you are doing the same thing to CPS workers....
susie
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