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Crime and Punishment in Connecticut
The New York Times ^ | April 22, 2008

Posted on 04/22/2008 2:06:24 PM PDT by george76

Two horrifying crimes have exposed serious weaknesses in Connecticut’s criminal justice system. But a “three strikes and you’re out” law proposed by Gov. M. Jodi Rell and Republicans in the Legislature would do more harm than good.

Last July two recently paroled men broke into a home in Cheshire and tortured and murdered three people.

Last month a man who served more than eight years for assaulting a 5-year-old — and had been out on probation for less than a month — broke into a New Britain home. He accosted two women, wounding one and killing the other.

Republicans, led by Ms. Rell, have responded by calling for a “three strikes” law. Democrats have rightly resisted.

The proposed law, which would mandate life in prison for anyone convicted of three violent felonies, is a bumper-sticker solution that would create injustices by barring judges’ discretion in sentencing.

It would also not deter the many crimes committed by people who have not committed three violent felonies.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: New York
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; ccw; leo; threestrikes
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1 posted on 04/22/2008 2:06:24 PM PDT by george76
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Why not have Hussein simply talk to these scumbags? After all, he can talk anybody into a life of Peace, Love, Hope and Change.

/sarc (as if you needed me to state the obvious)

2 posted on 04/22/2008 2:14:37 PM PDT by kromike
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There’s a brain-dead liberal for you.

“Crime will get worse if sentences are more strict and longer. Crime will get better if we free the criminals and enroll them in some taxpayer supported ‘program’.”

A child knows better.


3 posted on 04/22/2008 2:16:20 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: george76

SOBs at the NY Times oppose any Second Amendment right for citizens to have arms. Both of these incidents could have been avoided.

The Times never links their anti 2A message with horrific crime stories like this.


4 posted on 04/22/2008 2:17:54 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: george76; Calpernia; kcvl; Cindy

A search for “Death Penalty Moratorium” will uncover the real problem.

Start with the American Bar Association.


5 posted on 04/22/2008 2:18:42 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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Maybe a “one strike and you’re out” would solve the repeated offense problem they are describing.


6 posted on 04/22/2008 2:29:10 PM PDT by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: kromike

Send Jimmy to Hartford....Ignorance is as Ignorence Does(something like that)


7 posted on 04/22/2008 2:34:54 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Marie2
Maybe a “one strike and you’re out” would solve the repeated offense problem they are describing.

Public executions would stop this mess very quickly.

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8 posted on 04/22/2008 2:37:40 PM PDT by Cobra64 (www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Marie2; Grampa Dave; Liz; The Mayor; Marysecretary; rochester_veteran; Screamname; SunkenCiv; ...
NT Slimes thinking :

It would also not deter the many crimes committed by people who have not committed three violent felonies.

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9 posted on 04/22/2008 2:54:19 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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I don’t believe criminals should get 3 bites at the apple that is society.

One strike is enough for me. KEEP THEM INSIDE the walls of the prison.

There are far too many stories about someone out of prison or on parole after a stint in prison going out and committing another crime- often worse- within a very few days.


10 posted on 04/22/2008 3:24:49 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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The proposed law, which would mandate life in prison for anyone convicted of three violent felonies, is a bumper-sticker solution that would create injustices by barring judges’ discretion in sentencing.

How is a penalty equally applied to all persons who violate a law an injustice?

The real subtext of this quote is that liberals loathe the idea of activist judges losing the ability to let criminals go with nary a slap on the wrist.

There are a lot of judges like that here in Massachusetts, like the s.o.b. who, after being told by two psychiatrists and a district attorney that a convicted pedophile was a threat to the public, let the guy out on his own recognizance because he hadn't raped any children in the previous seven years.

And, yes...the pedophile had been in prison for those seven years. Lots of kids in there, right? A law like this would have prevented the next rape, which did occur mere days later.
11 posted on 04/22/2008 3:43:56 PM PDT by LostInBayport ("Anyone whose tax bill goes up feels like it's an increase." - Mass. Governor Deval Patrick, 2/28/07)
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I have never understood why liberals want criminals released early and often.


12 posted on 04/22/2008 4:00:46 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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No, NYT is actually right. Why give criminals the chance to murder one person, get a few years, come out, murder three more people, get a few more years, then get out again, and then murder five people, then FINALLY, get life in prison? That’s nine souls that person has taken, before they’re put in jail for good.


13 posted on 04/22/2008 4:03:50 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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enough! three strikes=castration+time to get right. 4strikes=lobotomy+
a job paying minimum wage weaving baskets.
14 posted on 04/22/2008 4:06:51 PM PDT by machenation ("it can't happen here" Frank Zappa)
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"Hey, Pinch. Wanna go down the fruit cellar with me?"

15 posted on 04/22/2008 4:34:58 PM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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I have never understood why liberals want criminals released early and often.

I have two theories on this, depending on my current level of cynicism.

Maybe they're just softhearted. Their enclaves - gated communities, academia, etc - are far enough removed from the thugs they refuse to punish that they genuinely don't see the consequences if they refuse to look.

Less charitably, the recidivist mayhem is an intentional scheme to build support for bigger government. Let thugs run free, restrict normal people from defending themselves, and come election day we will - they hope - vote them more surveillance and control powers so they can defend us.

16 posted on 04/22/2008 5:03:35 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: george76
The proposed law, which would mandate life in prison for anyone convicted of three violent felonies, is a bumper-sticker solution that would create injustices by barring judges’ discretion in sentencing.

Yes this is blunt and in many cases less than just, but there would not be widespread support for laws like this if judges were not abusing their discretion by giving career criminals 6-8 wrist slaps.

17 posted on 04/22/2008 5:47:25 PM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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Why, they worry about themselves and their friends...


18 posted on 04/23/2008 4:00:36 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: LostInBayport
How is a penalty equally applied to all persons who violate a law an injustice?

In California, I recall that one fellow's third felony "strike" - carrying a 25-to-life sentence - was shoplifting $45 worth of videos, since theft by a convicted felon, in any dollar amount, carries an enhanced sentence. "Petty theft with a prior," they call it.

19 posted on 04/24/2008 6:59:37 AM PDT by mvpel
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To: george76
The proposed law, which would mandate life in prison for anyone convicted of three violent felonies, is a bumper-sticker solution that would create injustices by barring judges’ discretion in sentencing. It would also not deter the many crimes committed by people who have not committed three violent felonies.

"Injustices"? Just what part of "Three Violent Felonies" don't they understand.

And that last part, even for the NY Slimes, that one of dumbest things I've seen in quiet a while.

20 posted on 04/24/2008 8:41:30 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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