Posted on 04/22/2008 6:54:26 AM PDT by forkinsocket
“Just tell how it is the Jews’ fault if the Palis can’t organize a remotely civilized or productive entity. Israel withdrew completely from Gaza. The Palis turned everything economically valuable into garbage.”
Okay, I’ll tell you how. Israel removed its settlers from Gaza but Israel still controls Gaza’s airspace, territorial water, and land borders, except for its border with Egypt. Israel also controls Gaza’s telecommunications network, customs and tax revenues, not to mention Israel’s putting a blockade on imports.
“Gazans can’t turn on the lights, get tap water, buy enough food, or earn a living without Israel’s consent.” (quote from Joe Stork, Human Rights Watch).
Israel also controls Gaza’s telecommunications network, customs and tax revenues, not to mention Israel’s putting a blockade on imports.
That's to the benefit of the Gazans. As we have seen after HAMAS took charge, everything they tough turns into sh*t. They murdered Fatah men in the streets, looted and pillaged and let Gaza stew in sewage. Without Israel controlling the infrastructure, there would be no infrastructure in Gaza at all. Anyway why should Israel put at Hamas' disposal? So they can more easily finance the murder of Jews?
What that means is, Israel still controls Israel's borders.
Just for grins, what do the "Human Rights Watch" dudes have to say about the rockets that the Gazans are constantly shooting into Sderot?
Right on, Alouette! Give it ‘em back, as the Cockneys used to say to Churchill in 1940-41!
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One small flush for man, one big leap for good sense and good tase.
“Without Israel controlling the infrastructure, there would be no infrastructure in Gaza at all.”
Just where do you get your “news”? The Weekly Standard?
You can reject whatever sources as credible and believe that the Gazans would never get out of poverty anyway (and maybe they wouldn’t), but that doesn’t change the facts as far as what Israel still controls and the blockade, which would hamper anybody’s economy.
Human Rights Watch, in their letter to UN Human Rights Council, Jan. 22, concerning Hamas:
“Hamas and Palestinian Armed Groups
1. Cease Unlawful Rocket Attacks
According to the United Nations, from mid-June 2007 to December 25, 2007, armed Palestinian groups in Gaza fired 632 ‘Qassam’ rockets and 921 mortar bombs into Israel, injuring 82 Israeli citizens.
“The rockets fired by Palestinian armed groups violate the international humanitarian law prohibition on indiscriminate attacks because they are highly inaccurate and cannot be directed at a specific military target. Where there is no intended military target and the rockets are fired into a civilian area, such as the Israeli town of Sderot, they constitute deliberate attacks against civilians. Because Hamas exercises power inside Gaza, it is responsible for stopping unlawful attacks even when carried out by other groups.
“2. Stop Arbitrary Detention and Torture
Since forcibly taking over Gaza in June, Hamas has assumed control of the security services and judicial bodies. Hamas has been carrying out arrests and running detention centers, although it is not a law enforcement agency nor is it empowered by law to exercise these functions. Hamas-run security forces – the Qassam Brigades and Executive Force – have engaged in torture and inhumane and degrading treatment of detainees during interrogation, frequently members or supporters of Fatah.”
So I guess at least Human Rights Watch doesn’t take one side while giving a pass to the other no matter what they do, like you apparently do.
BTW, Israel still controls Gaza’s coast and airspace.
That was an uncalled for personal attack.
BTW, Israel still controls Gaza’s coast and airspace.
The U.S. Coast Guard patrols Canadian coast and airspace all along the Detroit River.
And Muslims would make similar claims about you.
No. The JEws of Hebron were not doing that in 1929.
Think GWB will ask King Hussein why his nation has a death penalty on the books for selling land to a Jew when he visits tomorrow?
“That was an uncalled for personal attack.”
My mistake, then. From my reading of your many posts where you’ve excused Israel’s actions, including their spying on the U.S. and selling our technology to China, I thought that you are one of the blind followers of the state of Israel.
“The U.S. Coast Guard patrols Canadian coast and airspace all along the Detroit River.”
Does the U.S. control Canada’s ports and blockade their imports too? I didn’t know that.
Memo from “typical ‘bitter’ White Male” to Vicious Babushka:
You’re getting my Amen Corner going!
If Detroit and Wyandotte were getting shelled daily by rockets launched from Windsor and Amherstberg, you bet your sweet ass!
You forgot my applauding of the Israeli hora-dancers on the rooftops of New Jersey on 9/11, and cheering on the collapse of the U.S. economy due to cheap Chinese imports when the Israelis bought out Sam Walton, Inc.
[that was sarcasm, boys and girls]
So when they accept Christ as their savior the muzzies will suddenly stop hating them?
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