[keats5]

You asked: “Is that the way science should be approached, and is Stein film contributing to getting people to view the issues objectively or exacerbating the problem?”

My reply: I don't know. However, until we admit that people from both sides interpret science through their own world views, we will never get anywhere. That is why philosophy used to be considered together with science, and was itself considered a science. I'm beginning to think that, in this fallen world, this issue will never get to the point that we have a clear consensus.

The evos insist that believers rule out the possibility of a designer, and define science in a way that does just that. The believers insist that science be broadened to consider things beyond the material world. For the most part, people chose one side or the other.

I have. I'm a believer. I certainly understand the other point of view, but it is one which I do not adopt, nor do I want it forced upon my children as the one and only possible viewpoint. I would hope we could we focus on teaching our children the 99.9% of science that has nothing to do with origins, and place the other philosophically based issues about origin in a class which teaches both sides (a philosophy of science type course.)

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

The religious claims of atheist Darwinists (that there is no God) cannot be established by the scientific method. The proper term for this is not "science" per se but scientism. Those advocating this appear not to understand what they are doing philosophically.

[tacticalogic]

I don't see it as "the evos" wanting believers to rule out the possibility of a designer, but of having them realize that because the methodology they use to test ToE simply won't work on ID. There is no way to test it, and in an empirical system no way to give it "equal consideration" by any objective standard.

If they are to pursue scientific inquiry of the history of life on Earth from an assumption of intelligent design, how does the inquiry proceed? How do they test for intelligent design? If there's no way to test it, what is there for them to do?