[ansel12]

"She said the children were taught to not tell outsiders who their parents were, to avoid providing any info that would aid authorities in proving that polygamous relationships existed.

You keep repeating that, but you leave out the more serious practice that teaching the children to lie conceals, and that is the practice that has most of us so bothered, the child rape. The conditioning of a lifetime of lying also is necessary for other daily practices of the cult related to financial dealings and the illegal polygamy, it also isolates the children by teaching them that communication is only for within the cult never with people that are outsiders.

[DannyTN]

All excellent points, and yet amazingly there are some here who believe the judge has absolutely no basis to hold the children.