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To: r9etb
Iran was a wonderful place. Not heaven on earth but good. It's true you couldn't speak out against the Shah (it wasn't a democracy after all) but he was basically a good man trying to keep his country out of the hands of the communists. So yes, some suppression occured. But what happened was more like how the Soviets brainwashed our youth during the Vietnam War, the Soviet spies invaded the univerisites and brainwashed alot of the Iranian youths. Alot of them became useful idiots for the Soviets.

As with almost any revolution, those who begin it usually end up dead, exiled, or supressed while another group comes in...hence, Khomeni.

The Shah made his major mistake by taking land from the Imams and giving it to the people. He also tried to drag the people into the 20th Century too fast. He built his people good roads, hospitals with free care, gave them free eduction. It's my belief that Carter is a marxist idiot who also fawns over any murderous dictator that he can find.

Remember when Carter was going to give one of his fireside chats and an aide lamented that Carter spent 2 hours or so trying to decide which sweater to wear but only spent about 15 minutes on the speech?

Remember when businesses had to have their thermostats on at a certain degree or they'd be heavily fined? A lot of businesses started putting locks on their thermostats at that point. I was working at a restaurant at the time and thought it was ludicrous.

Misery Index? Malaise?

I read where Carter turned on the Shah because the Shah wouldn't pay a $100,000 bribe (that's basically what it was) to some of Carter's buddies.

Carter had alot of people fooled because he "appeared" to be a moral, good person...in a Machiavellian way but I believe that was just an appearance.

He is a failed prince who couldn't keep power and did everything wrong except his appearance of being a good, moral person on the surface. Dig deeper and you find him rumored by people who actually know him and worked with him to be a small, petty, vindictive, little man.

62 posted on 04/25/2008 8:16:30 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

“Iran was a wonderful place. Not heaven on earth but good. It’s true you couldn’t speak out against the Shah (it wasn’t a democracy after all) but he was basically a good man trying to keep his country out of the hands of the communists. So yes, some suppression occured. But what happened was more like how the Soviets brainwashed our youth during the Vietnam War, the Soviet spies invaded the univerisites and brainwashed alot of the Iranian youths. Alot of them became useful idiots for the Soviets.
As with almost any revolution, those who begin it usually end up dead, exiled, or supressed while another group comes in...hence, Khomeni.

The Shah made his major mistake by taking land from the Imams and giving it to the people. He also tried to drag the people into the 20th Century too fast. He built his people good roads, hospitals with free care, gave them free eduction. It’s my belief that Carter is a marxist idiot who also fawns over any murderous dictator that he can find.”

Correct.
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63 posted on 04/26/2008 5:47:25 AM PDT by nuconvert (There are bad people in the pistachio business.)
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