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To: greyfoxx39

NO, it is not meant to be satire. I don’t see the gov has the right to take these kids from their mothers—the most vile form of child abuse I have yet witnessed in such massive numbers—these women clearly love their children.

I have yet to see proof of abuse of women or children in this compound. One of the supposed outrages, is the polygamy thing—hell, older men in every city in the country father children with multiple women, only they aren’t married to them and mostly have no part in carrying for the kids.


49 posted on 04/21/2008 8:24:19 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: Neoliberalnot
I don’t see the gov has the right to take these kids from their mothers—the most vile form of child abuse I have yet witnessed in such massive numbers—these women clearly love their children.

I guess you don't keep up with child abuse cases, then. Two common types of child sexual abuse cases involve a stepfather, live-in boyfriend, father or other family member who has abused a minor...where
(a) ...the mother of the child at least was vaguely aware of something amiss...and was therefore either an enabler or an accomplice; or
(b) ...the mother of the child knew absolutely nothing about what had occurred.

Let's just for a moment give the benefit of the doubt to these compound mothers & say a lot of them are (b) above. In the cases above, does the level of "love of the mother toward the child" effect whether CPS removes the child? (No!) [So stop preaching false standards of child protection]

Many of these mothers were themselves so-called "child brides" & have family members (mothers, aunts, stepmoms) who were the same. To claim that they were unaware of the goings-on flunks a reality check.

I have yet to see proof of abuse of women or children in this compound.

Ummm...that's why they call it a "compound." Do you think this desolate place in West Texas was chosen because somebody happened to stumble upon a tumbleweed & said, "Yup, this is the place!?"

LDS learned the hard way a long time ago the consequences of openly practicing polygamy. When Joseph Smith tried it in Nauvoo, as soon as we was exposed by an ex-Mormon in the Nauvoo Expositor, he abused his mayoral church-state separation power & ordered its destruction. That in turn, led to the mob attack on him. (Mormons don't usually like to discuss the why their beloved leader was in jail to begin with)

A generation or so later, once the railroad lines brought the "gentiles" to "Zion" (Utah), the lack of isolation is what ground their dark-corner practices to a halt. Hence a remote outpost like the Short Creek area is where the true "pligs" amassed 1-2 generations after mainstream Mormons were jailed for the same thing.

...older men in every city in the country father children with multiple women.

Non-sequitor argument. City "women" are not the same as "compound girls." The first is called true "consent"; the second "statutory rape." (You also seem to have a comprehension issue...polygamy is "illegal." That's i-l-l-e-g-a-l...as used in the sentence "jail time illegal.")

60 posted on 04/21/2008 8:46:29 AM PDT by Colofornian
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