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Posted on 04/20/2008 4:47:56 AM PDT by fweingart

We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington , DC , filled to capacity by many of America 's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, 'Mexifornia,' explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California . He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America

The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States .. He said, 'If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that An autopsy o f history would show that all great nations commit suicide.''

'Here is how they do it,' Lamm said:

'First, to destroy America , turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put itis way: 'The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada , Belgium , Malaysia , and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence . Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, Corsicans and Muslims.'

Lamm went on:

'Second, to destroy America , invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal; that there are no cultur al differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

'Third, we could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentriy and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.' Lamm said, 'I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to en sure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities.'

'Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school.'

'My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on themajority plation.'

'My sixth plan for America 's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precet. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia , threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured politi cal divisions. Greece fell. 'E. Pluribus Unum -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will'Balkanize'< B> America as surely as Kosovo.'

'Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits. Make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-cultum, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology ' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America , it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them.'

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, 'Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis 's book 'Mexifornia.' His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America .. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book.'

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America Take note of California an d other states. To date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book 1984.' In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: 'War is peace,' 'Freedom is slavery, ' and 'Ignorance is strength.

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.


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I read this some time ago, but found it included in my emails this morning. Very poignant remarks by Governor Lamm and worth reading again and again.
1 posted on 04/20/2008 4:47:56 AM PDT by fweingart
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To: All
Here's the link to the original article:

http://www.safehaven.com/article-4837.htm

2 posted on 04/20/2008 4:49:19 AM PDT by fweingart (It doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always gets in!)
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> Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia , threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured politi cal divisions. Greece fell.

This isn’t how I recall History being taught. Persia fell to the Greeks, not the other way around.


3 posted on 04/20/2008 4:55:31 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: fweingart
He is on the money and there is nothing that can be done now! We have passed the point of no return. I was sitting in a restaurant yesterday and a foursome of young Mexicans walked in and the one in front had a tee shirt that read “They Cant deport us all.” That should about sum it all up. We are a gutless,worthless country that allows foreigners to come into our homes and rub it in our face.
4 posted on 04/20/2008 4:57:29 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: fweingart; nathanbedford

Lamm’s agenda is an offshoot of the philosophy expounded by the Frankfurt School—without several key aspects such as the gender issue.


5 posted on 04/20/2008 4:59:19 AM PDT by OESY
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To: fweingart

Thank you for posting this article.


6 posted on 04/20/2008 5:01:03 AM PDT by carton253 (www.headquartersanv.blogspot.com -- for conversations about the Army of Northern Virginia.)
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News reports say illegal invaders armed with torches, hacksaws, ladders and even bungee cords are making it around a section of the US border fence hailed as the most efficient way to stop them.

Shucks, and here we thought illegal aliens were all harmless farmers violating our borders for a better life---to take jobs Americans won't do---flipping hamburgers and picking lettuce. (/sarc)

THEY WONT STOP COMING UNLESS WE CUTOFF THE BENEFITS. The payoff in US govt benefits is inmense which is why they will use any means to get here. How do low-paid lettuce pickers send $50 million per year back to Mexico?

Multiple identities and numerous SS nos gets the invaders on several US gravy trains simultaneously.......multiple EITC refunds, welfare checks, food stamps (which they sell), UI and disability checks. Plus invaders get several ADD disability checks for each kid using different names. Course, the big payoff is income from drug-running for Columbian drug lords. Here's how they do it.

Two accused of planning to sell counterfeit IDs
07/21/06, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
NORTH BERGEN -- The Pelcastre brothers were a walking threat to national security -- expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, authorities said Thursday. When police stumbled across the pair, the men had turned a Tonnelle Avenue hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local identity broker, authorities said.

The brothers, Angel, 31, and Jorge, 34, both of Dallas, were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of government documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the country, passports and resident alien cards, said state police Capt. Al Della Fave. "Can you imagine if a terrorist were able to get their hands on this stuff?" Della Fave said. "They'd have free passage throughout the country."

A task force including state troopers and officers from both the Bergen and Hudson county prosecutors' offices happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in the parking lot of the hotel Wednesday morning. Authorities wouldn't identify the hotel by name for fear it could hinder cooperation from other hotels in future investigations or spark retribution.

The Corporate Outreach Task Force, formerly the Hotel Motel Drug Interdiction Task Force, regularly runs checks on motor vehicles in area motels. Members of the task force began watching the cars, a Chevrolet Impala and a Pontiac Firebird, and followed the brothers to an office supply store in a nearby shopping center, where the men purchased computer supplies, said state police Sgt. Stephen Jones.

Officers then followed the brothers to a self-storage facility in Secaucus, where they loaded several boxes from a storage unit into one of the cars, Jones said. One of the men stood lookout, which heightened police suspicion, he said. Authorities approached the men when they returned to the hotel and questioned them separately, Jones said. The brothers consented to a search of their cars, hotel room and the storage facility, he said. Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs, Jones said.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street, Della Fave said. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a fake document broker for a shipment of 500 Social Security cards, Della Fave said.

"They were aggressively selling to brokers," he said. "This isn't like selling driver's licenses to individuals. These were multiple layers of high-level documents."

The brothers were being held without bail Thursday at the Hudson County Jail on charges of possessing fraudulent documents and conspiracy to sell fraudulent documents. Federal charges are also pending against them, said state police Detective Sgt. Cesar Huaman, a member of the task force.

7 posted on 04/20/2008 5:09:40 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: fweingart
And Snopes says true.
8 posted on 04/20/2008 5:13:11 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“This isn’t how I recall History being taught. Persia fell to the Greeks, not the other way around.”

Well, Persia was at least pushed back by the Greeks. Certainly the Persians never conquered the Greeks. Its curious that the odd Gov. Lamm speaks of Greece “falling”. Of course it did, but only after about 1000 years the first time around and 1100+ years the second time. And the empire that fell to the Turks in 1453 was thoroughly “multi ethnic” as was the western Roman empire which preceded it and the Ottoman one which followed it.

Lamm is assuming that the Western, post Enlightenment, really 19th/20th century conception of nation state (and in a limited way its predecessors in Medieval Western Europe) is the only way a state can be sustained. History shows otherwise. The empires of the past were far more cohesive than are the brittle modern states. It is fair to observe, however, that the melting pot idea, while not as flexible at all as the Eastern or Western Roman systems when it comes to citizenship concepts, is nevertheless a better system than one which intentionally “Balkanizes” (a 19th century concept)America.


9 posted on 04/20/2008 5:16:30 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: fweingart

So Savage is right?

Borders, language culture?


10 posted on 04/20/2008 5:18:27 AM PDT by ryan71 (Typical bitter white gun toter)
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To: fweingart
'Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits.

To me, this is the one I least understand. Political Correctness is killing this country. If you dispute some fact or challenge a position held by an immigrant, you're a racist. If you say a woman cannot wear a burka while she has her driver's license photo taken, you're accusing of denying her "rights". BS! We have long-established rules in this Republic and if someone doesn't like them, they should leave and go to some other place where those rules are already in force. And, clearly, if you're here illegally, you have absolutely no "rights" to say anything about how things are done here.

11 posted on 04/20/2008 5:23:18 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
You missed the point. The author didn't say that Greece fell to the Persians. It fell due to "local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions." Persia was a common enemy that should have united them.

Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia , threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell.

12 posted on 04/20/2008 5:26:51 AM PDT by kabar
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To: gunnedah
“They Cant deport us all.”

But we can cut off or imprison the money source Pedro. Then you either eat sand or head back to ole Mexico.

13 posted on 04/20/2008 5:29:09 AM PDT by Condor 63
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> You missed the point. The author didn’t say that Greece fell to the Persians. It fell due to “local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions.” Persia was a common enemy that should have united them.

But that, too, isn’t history as I recall it being taught. Greece didn’t really fall: it was assimilated by the Romans, religion and all.


14 posted on 04/20/2008 5:32:39 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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Michelle Malkin posted just before one of the invaders' street protests:
SOURCE http://michellemalkin.com/2006/04/28/exclusive-illegal-alien-day-planning/

To: la-voz-de-aztlan@aztlan.net
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:27:37 -0700
Subject: [La Voz de Aztlan]
URGENT ALERT: From The Revolutionary Council and Provisional Government of Aztlan

Dear La Voz de Aztlan Subscribers:

We have received the following communique from the Minister of Information of the Nation of Aztlan. We rarely receive any communiques from the “Revolutionary Council and Provisional Government of Aztlan” so we must assume that it is of upmost importance. We urge that you carefully consider the information that it contains. Please pass this to others in your network!

URGENT ALERT: From The Revolutionary Council and Provisional Government of Aztlan
April 26, 2006 Estimada Raza de Aztlan and Beyond

Our Director of Special Intelligence Services has brought to our attention disturbing information that threatens the safety of our families.

This information requires that we prepare a defense strategy to protect our communities. Due to the recent large demonstrations of our people in major cities in occupied Anahuac, extremist European invaders are preparing violent actions against us.

They are expected to use physical violence in the upcoming marches and rallies planned for May 1, 2006 and we must take steps to protect our families.The Director of Special Intelligence Services has reliable information that anti-Mexican forces in Aztlan and in certain other area of Anahuac, are preparing to utilize explosives and snipers to kill our people. We urge our community to arm themselves to protect our families. We are also urging our soldiers presently serving In Iraq, Afghanistan and other foreign lands to do everything possible to return home and fight for your own.

The situation here is critical. In addition, all political prisoners shall be in constant alert and ready for action. Also, youth groups in our barrios shall call truces and direct their energies against the racist White enemy that has vowed to annihilate our families. Our Prime Minister is instructing every able-bodied male to arm himself to protect the women and children in his home.

We can not depend on local White law enforcement authorities because in many cases they will join the criminal elements and participate in the slaughter of our people. Make sure you have weapons and plenty of ammunition in your homes at the ready. Criminal racist elements have already made death threats against certain “occupation administrators” and they will not stop at killing our civilians.

We hope that the massacres of Mexicans that the White criminals have vowed to undertake are just the rantings of cowardly insane minds but we must take these threats seriously.

Cuauhtli Minister of Information
Nation of Aztlan La Voz de Aztlan

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COMMENTARY How about that? "Cuauhtli Minister of Information Nation of Aztlan La Voz de Aztlan: Criminal racist elements (that's us) have already made death threats against certain “occupation administrators” and they will not stop at killing our civilians. We hope that the massacres of Mexicans that the White criminals have vowed to undertake are just the rantings of cowardly insane minds but we must take these threats seriously."

Keep in mind, John McCain has appointed one of the "occupation adminstrators," Juan Hernandez, as his Hispanic outreach Director (Hernandez--a dual loyalty born-American---served in the Mexican Cabinet of Vicente Fox as Aztlan facilitator).

So that means a US politician is working hand in hand with "Aztlan occupation administrators" and will make sure the occupiers are armed and ready to kill us.....all with our tax dollars.

ALSO PERTINENT: Favio Ucedo, creative director of leading US Latino ad agency Grupo Gallegos about the Absolut vodka campaign, explained the reconquista-endorsing ad to The Los Angeles Times: "Mexicans talk about how the Americans stole their land, so this is their way of reclaiming it. It's very relevant and the Mexicans will love the idea."

MICHELE MALKIN: Oops. Guess he didn't get the liberal talking-points manual: You're supposed to deny that reconquista exists and label anyone who criticizes it as a delusional racist. Remember: The National Council of La Raza ("the race") claims that reconquista is just a "code word" invented by "hate groups" who are dreaming the whole thing up.

15 posted on 04/20/2008 5:32:49 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: fweingart
We are, literally, importing poverty via immigration:

From Heritage.org:
Importing Poverty: Immigration and Poverty in the United States: A Book of Charts

Excerpts:

Today’s immigrants differ greatly from historic immigrant populations. Prior to 1960, immigrants to the U.S. had education levels that were similar to those of the non-immigrant workforce and earned wages that were, on aver­age, higher than those of non-immigrant workers. Since the mid-1960s, however, the education levels of new immigrants have plunged relative to non-immigrants; consequently, the average wages of immigrants are now well below those of the non-immigrant population. Recent immigrants increasingly occupy the low end of the U.S. socio-economic spectrum.[2]

The current influx of poorly educated immigrants is the result of two factors: first, a legal immigration system that favors kinship ties over skills and education; and second, a permissive attitude toward illegal immigration that has led to lax border enforcement and non-enforcement of the laws that prohibit the employment of illegal immigrants. In recent years, these factors have produced an inflow of some ten and a half million immigrants who lack a high school education. In terms of increased poverty and expanded government expenditure, this importation of poorly educated immigrants has had roughly the same effect as the addition of ten and a half million native-born high school drop-outs.



In this way, the roughly six million legal immigrants without a high school diploma will impose a net cost of around a half-trillion dollars on U.S. taxpayers over their lifetimes. The roughly five million illegal immigrants without a high school diploma will cost taxpayers somewhat less because illegal immigrants are eligible for fewer government benefits. However, if these illegal immigrants were granted amnesty and citizenship, as proposed by the Bush Administration and legislated in a recent Senate-passed immigration bill (S. 2611), they could cost tax­payers an additional half-trillion dollars. In total, all immigrants without a high school education could impose a net cost on U.S. taxpayers of around one trillion dollars or more. If the cost of educating the immigrants’ children is included, that figure could reach two trillion dollars.[4]

It astounds me that our politicians are FOR this downturn in our society and our culture.

I think we are in trouble.

16 posted on 04/20/2008 5:33:25 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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First time I’ve seen VDH be wrong - immigration isn’t destroying California. California was destroyed years ago. As long as politicians think they can pander to illegal immigrants for votes, this will continue.


17 posted on 04/20/2008 5:44:17 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: fweingart; Liz; raybbr

BTTT! Thanks for the links.


18 posted on 04/20/2008 5:48:53 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: fweingart
Has anyone checked this on Snopes? It just has that smell to it....
19 posted on 04/20/2008 5:49:26 AM PDT by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: gunnedah; Tennessee Nana; sheana; Kimberly GG; AuntB; raybbr; Kenny Bunk
gunnedah: We have passed the point of no return. A young Mexican walked into a restaurant wearing a tee shirt that read “They Can't Deport Us All.” That about sums it up. We are a gutless,worthless country that allows foreigners to come into our homes and rub it in our faces.

Amazing how brazen these squatters are getting. They are apparently getting orders on ways to undermine the US government. The Mexican government coaches them well---they are trained to dupe the gringos with sob stories like," We come to US to get better life, to do jobs Americanos won't do."

However, with info we now have, clearly they are propagandists, spreading hatred of America and Americans; they are enemy agents in collusion with foreign governments. The goal is to undermine the US government, and loot the US Treasury in preparation for the takeover

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FReeper Kenny Bunk explained better than anybody how we are being screwed.

There seems to be a virtual world out there, the population of which is increasing by leaps and bounds. Perhaps it started with the mythical families of enthusiastic voters, living at mythical addresses (one such world created for Loretta Sanchez in her fraudulent campaign against Cong Bob Dornan)..........

Join me now, amigos, for a tour of post office boxes in our border region: La Zona de Tolerancia Where anything goes and whither goeth many many SS checks, sometimes many to the same mailbox. Our amigos y vecinos del sur invented the virtual person ages ago when they discovered that one Mexican in Mexico could easily be three or four people in the nearby US territory of Aztlán.

Manuel Rodriguez y Gomez soon discovered that he was listed alphabetically under G for Gomez. So the next time, he simply becomes Manuel Rodriguez, But few gringo flak catchers knew that he could be Manuel Gomez-Rodriguez, or Manuel R. Gomez. María Hernández, his encantadora esposa, is actually María Hernández de Rodriguez, Maria Rodriguez, María Rodriguez-Gomez, etc. ad nauseam, depending upon the head of the unit's imaginaciòn and the incompetence of the issuing agencies. Soon, como la noche sigue la tarde, came drivers licenses in each name, all kinds of multiple goodie plastic ID's for health care, food stamps, and the entire panoply of CA welfare services. Not to mention green cards and SS IDs.

You see gringos, in the old-fashioned Spanish culture, one's name is a matter that permits of much personal interpretation. Besides, there are just not that many surnames in Spanish to begin with. A simple phone book check in Yourtown USA should prove that to your satisfaction. Look up José Sánchez. Then 18 pages later .....

Thus, it seemed so natural to Loretta Sanchez. She gave each contrived persona a contrived family ... and hey, they had to live somewhere ... and vote for someone ... so they voted for Loretta Sanchez (who fraudulently won the Cong seat of Bob Dornan).

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This voting fraud MO is being repeated over and over---McCain is onto it and appointed as his Hispanic Outreach director, dual loyalty Juan Hernandez--a born American who served in the Mexican Cabinet as Aztlan facilitator.

20 posted on 04/20/2008 5:54:37 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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