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Polygamous-sect children ordered to stay in Texas custody (DNA Tests Ordered)
From the Associated Press ^ | 5:52 PM PDT, April 18, 2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/18/2008 6:30:59 PM PDT by granite

SAN ANGELO, Texas -- More than 400 children taken from a ranch run by a polygamous sect will stay in state custody and be subject to genetic testing, a judge ruled Friday. State District Judge Barbara Walther heard 21 hours of testimony over two days before ruling that the children be kept by the state. Individual hearings will be set for the children over the next several weeks. She ordered that all children and parents be given genetic testing. Child welfare officials have said they've had difficulty determining how the children and parents are related because of evasive or changing answers.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: flds; jeffs; pedophillia; polygamy; yfzranch
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To: org.whodat

The thing that is annoying is that the same posters will go to thread after thread and repeat this baseless lie.

Each time they act like their only concern is protecting the constitution.

Enough to gag a maggot.


81 posted on 04/18/2008 8:08:35 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: Azrael

Maybe false, maybe not. We will see.

But LE is inclined to respond to ANY complaint. That is their job.


82 posted on 04/18/2008 8:11:25 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Azrael

There are lots of men in jail right now for statutory rape.


83 posted on 04/18/2008 8:11:36 PM PDT by JRochelle (Keep sweet means shut up and take it.)
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To: Azrael; Judith Anne
That we don't know. Supposedly there was someone on the inside feeding information out. Contrary to those that want to burn them all at the stake, there wasn't sufficient evidence to go in. IF the call came from outside the state, it would tend to make the whole thing bogus.
84 posted on 04/18/2008 8:11:36 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: Judith Anne

So the reports of the phone call in the media are false?


85 posted on 04/18/2008 8:15:18 PM PDT by Azrael
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To: Judith Anne
The thing that is annoying is that the same posters will go to thread after thread and repeat this baseless lie.

Each time they act like their only concern is protecting the constitution.

Enough to gag a maggot.

Bttt,

if they keep it up I look for the big wholesale zot one day.

86 posted on 04/18/2008 8:16:37 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: SouthTexas
IF the call came from outside the state, it would tend to make the whole thing bogus.

No, actually, the response to the initial call was mandated. Evidence found during that call, sworn to in affadavits was used for the second visit, when the children were removed for their own safety. Nothing "make(s) the whole thing bogus."

87 posted on 04/18/2008 8:16:42 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: Judith Anne
The thing that is annoying is that the same posters will go to thread after thread and repeat this baseless lie.

Each time they act like their only concern is protecting the constitution.

Enough to gag a maggot.

Bttt,

if they keep it up I look for the big wholesale zot one day.

88 posted on 04/18/2008 8:16:52 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Hattie

Where is the same amount of concern for those girls? They are not being arrested, their children seized and DNA testing done on the lot.


89 posted on 04/18/2008 8:18:09 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: JRochelle

Yes, statutory rape is illegal. I think everyone on this thread understands your very obvious statement. I will make a very simple statement as well: If this charge is proven in this case then these men should go to jail just like all the other men in jail right now for statutory rape.

If you need any further clarification please let me know.


90 posted on 04/18/2008 8:18:25 PM PDT by Azrael
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To: Judith Anne

I did not know that this information was in dispute. I must have misread earlier, but I thought the caller had been identified and was not a girl from this sect.

Everything I heard has always said that the investigation was launched due to one phone call which turned out to be phony, or at least they had not found the supposed victim who called.

Do you have better info?


91 posted on 04/18/2008 8:20:16 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: berdie

The women have the equivalent of a second grade education.


92 posted on 04/18/2008 8:20:19 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: Azrael
So the reports of the phone call in the media are false?

Well, the woman who is accused of making them has constitutional rights, too. Let's wait until she either pleads guilty or is tried, shall we? After all, we have to respect the Constitution.

Meanwhile, back at the fLDS ranch, there will be DNA testing; probably cause was found to remove the children from the ranch and was sworn to on an affadavit.

This is at least the second time you've asked the same question, and I've replied to it at least twice. Are you playing a game?

93 posted on 04/18/2008 8:24:40 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: org.whodat

“Bug Zapper Thread Re-tread”


94 posted on 04/18/2008 8:24:53 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: Judith Anne
That's not what the sheriff said.

Far too much is being read into this by conjecture, preconceived notions, believing the media's reports (the same media that still has us losing in Iraq), and the "I read it on the net" so therefore it has to be true.

It also seems there are some that would be happy with another Waco.

95 posted on 04/18/2008 8:25:09 PM PDT by SouthTexas (If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!)
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To: unlearner

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0408081texas5.html


96 posted on 04/18/2008 8:26:53 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: unlearner

A warrant was obtained to investigate the call.

Perfectly legal.

LEOs witnessed multiple underage pregnancies in “plain sight”.

Based on that, they requested a SECOND warrant.

Perfectly legal.

A judge viewed the evidence and signed a removal order for the children.

Perfectly legal.

The phone call has NOT been proven to be phony. Several girls said a girl named Sarah matching the description given had been seen in the compound but had now disappeared.


97 posted on 04/18/2008 8:27:57 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: unlearner

The initial visit to the fLDS ranch was based on the phone call. Many have rushed to judgement and said it was bogus. Let’s let that woman have the same constitutional rights you demand for the fLDS residents, shall we?

Meanwhile, the first visit produced information for the second visit, affadavits, a search warrant with probable cause, and the removal of the children for their own safety, based on what was seen during the execution of that warrant.

This is at least the fourth time I’ve posted this tonight, and the sixth or seventh time I’ve posted it in the past two days.

Are you playing a game?


98 posted on 04/18/2008 8:28:07 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: SouthTexas

Sorry, accurate information is getting out, and FReepers can easily see who stands with Warren Jeffs, and who stand with the children exploited by his cohort.


99 posted on 04/18/2008 8:29:51 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: Judith Anne

The game I am playing is called “lets not have the hysterical witch hunt game”.

Meanwhile, back at the fLDS ranch, there will be DNA testing; and this is a good thing. If guilt proven; then justice should be swift.


100 posted on 04/18/2008 8:30:05 PM PDT by Azrael
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