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To: Petronski
[And should be addressed as all Popes should be, as 'his most hellish father'.]

That level of hatred is a sickness. I will pray for your recovery.

Any man who would take the title given to God needs the prayers.

Holy father is the name that Christ calls God the Father (Jn.17:11), it belongs to no man.

All have sinned and come short of the glory of God-Rom.3:23.

You allow a man to take the glory that belongs only to God and you call me sick?

When did Peter ever allow any man to get on his knees to him?

Catholicism is simply paganism with a veneer of Christianity on it.

362 posted on 04/22/2008 3:23:10 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Catholicism is simply paganism with a veneer of Christianity on it.

You're kidding, aren't you?

If not, you're more than welcome to join my class next year, as I venture into my 11th year of teaching Old Testament to the sixth graders of my parish.

The purpose behind the class is to help them understand the traditions of the Old Testament, and how they translate into their lives, and their Catholic faith.

During our lessons, we encounter a multitude of stories how the Hebrews lost their way, often worshiping pagan gods, and the consequences that arose from that. For me to agree with your statement would be a repudiation of everything I've taught over the past 10 years, not to mention the entirety of my theological education at Gonzaga University. You're welcome to your opinion, though.

Shalom aleichem!

363 posted on 04/22/2008 3:46:34 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Forget it...I'll never be able to pull the lever for McCain!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

“Catholicism is simply paganism with a veneer of Christianity on it.”

You know, you’re absolutely right. Let’s take the Cross of Salvation and use it as a club on other Christians.

I truly don’t understand why you and the like-minded need to bash other sects. If you are assured of your salvation, why not rejoice in that and pray for others “less enlightened” instead of engaging in the incessant attacks? How does tearing down all the good that has been achieved by Catholics over the centuries further the cause of Christ?

Is it the need to be right? Is it jealousy over the success of Catholicism? Is it insceurity in your own faith that drives you to try to discredit the faith of others?

You know, I confess that I should never have responded to Doc’s initial vilification of the Pope. What has followed, and I admit my part in it, is the basest manifestation of what must unfortunately be called Christianity.

I am going to withdraw from this discussion now, because I feel that I fallen into the error of not loving my neighbor as I should.

Dominus vobiscum.


365 posted on 04/22/2008 5:56:00 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: fortheDeclaration
Holy father is the name that Christ calls God the Father (Jn.17:11), it belongs to no man.

Where did Christ say "Holy Father" is a title exclusive to God the Father?

When did Peter ever allow any man to get on his knees to him?

Who got on their knees to Benedict?

All have sinned and come short of the glory of God-Rom.3:23.

Who has said otherwise?

368 posted on 04/22/2008 7:32:10 AM PDT by Petronski (Vivat Benedict XVI!)
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