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Ben Stein vs. Sputtering Atheists
Media Research Center ^ | April 17, 2008 | L. Brent Bozell III

Posted on 04/17/2008 4:07:06 PM PDT by Aristotelian

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To: Para-Ord.45
That`s what your thorazine was for sport, to block all those physcological projections of yours. Unfortunately you`re just another hopeless lunatic on par with an AGW “scientist”.
LOL... perhaps you're projecting your projection there snoogums? Should we start the meltdown alert?
261 posted on 04/18/2008 6:32:43 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: ketsu

My mistake. It`s obvious your shrink came to the conclusion that even thorazine wasn`t doing the trick and the answer was to be found elsewhere

Anencephaly is a horrible thing, too bad it robs you of the ability to comprehend 101 science in regards to AAs / protein.


262 posted on 04/18/2008 6:41:54 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45
My mistake. It`s obvious your shrink came to the conclusion that even thorazine wasn`t doing the trick and the answer was to be found elsewhere

Anencephaly is a horrible thing, too bad it robs you of the ability to comprehend 101 science in regards to AAs / protein.

Tell me how you really feel there killer. LOL.
263 posted on 04/18/2008 6:46:46 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: ketsu

My mistake. It`s obvious your shrink came to the conclusion that even thorazine wasn`t doing the trick and the answer was to be found elsewhere

Anencephaly is a horrible thing, too bad it robs you of the ability to comprehend 101 science in regards to AAs / protein.

“Tell me how you really feel there killer. LOL. “

Coulda swore I just saw you on the big screen bleeting the identical nothings to Ben Stein.


264 posted on 04/18/2008 6:56:23 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45
Coulda swore I just saw you on the big screen bleeting the identical nothings to Ben Stein.
LOL... that means *you* need the thorazine.
265 posted on 04/18/2008 6:58:18 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: ketsu

Coulda swore I just saw you on the big screen bleeting the identical nothings to Ben Stein.

” that means *you* need the thorazine. “

Still unable to cogitate due to your anencephaly I see. I said ‘could have’.Evos such as yourself unavoidably fail to comprehend the basics, and unavoidably descend in hurling pejoratives.


266 posted on 04/18/2008 7:07:06 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Para-Ord.45
Still unable to cogitate due to your anencephaly I see. I said ‘could have’.Evos such as yourself unavoidably fail to comprehend the basics, and unavoidably descend in hurling pejoratives.
Is that snoogums for "My insults didn't work so now I'll play the victim?".
267 posted on 04/18/2008 7:28:50 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: purpleraine

Good to know - LOL - yes you and hubby going will be a good “crowd”.....let me now what you think of it after you see it - and I’ll do the same for you.


268 posted on 04/18/2008 8:03:31 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: purpleraine

Good to know - LOL - yes you and hubby going will be a good “crowd”.....let me know what you think of it after you see it - and I’ll do the same for you.

corrected spelling...


269 posted on 04/18/2008 8:04:30 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: 728b

Exactly. Well said.


270 posted on 04/18/2008 8:07:42 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Doctor Raoul

Amen - yes he is - and very very few have the courage Ben Stein is displaying in confronting both the Evo-fascists and the Hollywierd elite.

Go, Ben!


271 posted on 04/18/2008 8:09:50 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Aristotelian

Just got back from the theater. GO SEE THIS FILM. Do it this weekend. This is the critical weekend for the film. It’s worth the time and the money.


272 posted on 04/18/2008 8:34:22 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Hubby has the flu, at least that's what I think. No mivies or anything today and probably for the weekend. He's 61 and won't take a shot. Otherwise he'll pull through.

Did you see it?

273 posted on 04/18/2008 8:35:57 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: purpleraine

Oh - not good - the flu!!!

NO, see the movie tomorrow. With 8 others. Will report on it here.

Hope you and Hubby can see it before it leaves. Not sure how long it is in theaters...hope longer than 3 days.


274 posted on 04/18/2008 9:05:29 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Para-Ord.45
Where are all the failed mutated fossils?

In any museum that has dinosaurs, for starters. After all, extinction is the ultimate failure of a species.

275 posted on 04/18/2008 10:03:39 PM PDT by onewhowatches
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From the OnePlace.com - listing of Dr. D. James Kennedy’s ministry - Truths that Transform - a classic message:

You are Fearfully and Wonderfully Made

Covers the tremendous discovery of microbiologists re: the composition of the human cell - of trillions of tiny machines...evidence of intelligent design - and of a DESIGNER of the bodies of living things....do you already know of this discovery which ranks among the most significant scientific discovery of all time???

typed transcript below from

http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/Truths_That_Transform/archives.asp?bcd=2008-4-18

Proclaiming Truths that Transform the World - This is Truths that Transform...by Dr. D. James Kennedy.....founder of Coral Ridge Ministries. (Dr. Kennedy died last year but his messages are timeless and vital in our time).

Are you concerned about the creation - evolution debate or have you been told it doesn’t really matter? If so, you have fallen into the secularist trap because that is exactly what they want you to believe. The last thing our secular elites want is for Christians to openly speak out against evolution and why? Because Darwin’s theory is the whole basis of their power....remove that and suddenly you have to answer to God....and that is probably why they will go to any length to silence those who question evolution. Thankfully Christians like Dr. Bill Jack and Dr. Ken Poppe are speaking out and letting the chips fall where they may. This week you are going to hear from them and learn why we must continue speaking out on the crucial creation/evolution debate....and a classic message from Dr. Kennedy reminding you that you are fearfully and wonderfully made.

Dr. Kennedy: Today I would like to tell you about something that I sincerely doubt that a handful of you have every heard of before. Something that is of enormous consequence and of great importance.

It is a Scientific Discovery - which strongly impacts upon our faith...and has been described by a scientist as one that is ranked with the greatest achievements in the history of science. It rivals those of Newton and Einstein...Pasteur and Darwin...It is a discovery which is as momentous as the observation that the earth goes around the sun, that disease is caused by bacteria... that radiation is emitted in quanta....

One of the astonishing things is that here is a Discovery of vast proportions - which almost none of you have heard of. And that is a story in itself.

3000 years ago King David declared that we were fearfully and wonderfully made. And that my soul knows right well. Well today, we would have to say that what he knew about it was very little. It is obvious even on the surface as many have observed down through the centuries.. that we are an extraordinarily wonderfully wrought creation. That the human body is indeed astonishing in many ways. When modern science began to develop...and by the way....

all of the founders of modern science were Christians.

They believed such things as that examining the creation would bring us closer to the Creator. Or, that in Science, said the founder of astronomy...we were merely thinking God’s thoughts after him.

Something happened on the way to the 20th century...
the entire scientific enterprise was hijacked in the middle of the 19th...Of course I am referring to Darwin’s theory of evolution....which as the leading scientist in Canada who was chosen to write the introduction to the Centennial edition of The Origin of Species = said that the greatest evil that Darwin has brought upon the world is to somehow divide science from God and in fact set them at each other’s throats.

Entire scientific enterprise has been hijacked into a naturalistic or materialistic view of the world. Naturalism means that there is nothing in the universe but nature - there is nothing supernatural. Materialism believes there is nothing in the world but matter.

A bit of history first...Darwin wrote his book in 1859, The Origin...and after about 100 years in 1950 the various scientific disciplines, paleontology, biology, astrophysics, astronomy, etc had been going off in their own directions.....and when they began to talk to each other they found that they had a lot of contradictory views...so they got together in about 1950 had a big convention to try to get them all playing from the same score - and they discovered that there were a number of parts of Darinism that really didn’t work...so they came up with a new theory (they are always coming up with new theories when the facts refute the old ones they simply change it)....so they came up with neo Darwinism - modern Darwinistic synthesis - in the 1950’s and they were all there...except one group of scientists not invited - the molecular biologists....the biochemists, the microbiologists ....why? They just hadn’t been “born” yet.

Microbiology really dates its birth from the discovery by Watson and Crick of the DNA from 1957 or 59..(end of the 50’s decade).. -So the microbioligists have continued apace, thousands of them, for the last 40 years - sort of the uninvited guests that didn’t make it to the party. And in the last few years their discoveries have been revealed and they are astonishing. And what is this incredible discovery? It is, and I quote from, Professor Dr.
Professor Michael Behe - biochemist at Lehigh University:

He says this... He says that....What was discovered is that at its base, life is composed of machines. A rather astounding discovery.

At our foundational level, he’s talking about the level within the cell at the molecular level, we are made of machines - not one or two or ten or a thousand or a million...but - but TRILLIONS OF MACHINES. In every one of our 3 trillion cells, we have about a trillion machines.

This discovery was made because of technological advances in microscopes. In Darwin’s day the microscopes were pretty weak so he thought of cell as of something like a small ping pong ball with a small pea in it...so it is interesting that

The key to persuading people of evolution was the portrayal of cells as simple...because the whole thrust of evolution is movement from the simple to the complex. And therefore, it had to begin with what Darwin repeatedly called a simple single cell. And that is what enabled him to convince the scientific world of the possibilities of evolution.

That’s where evolution began and hat has been discovered is a horrendous stupefying lilliputian world within every cell of your body that is complex beyond the farthest dreams of anyone.

E.g. Take the largest factory ever made - say its 1 mile long and 1 mile wide.....Four blocks over in this corner where they are making computers and another few blocks over here where they are making telephones and other blocks over here where they are making fax machines and radios and automobiles .... all kinds of things being produced all automated in this gigantic factory.

That, dear friends, is what you are...There are more machines inside of you than in all the factories of the world combined.

Yes, indeed, we are fearfully and wonderfully made.

Dr. Behe goes on to say that strangely when finally these microbiologists made this discovery you would have thought with the magnitude of this victory...and made at such great cost of countless millions hours of human drudgery in front of microscopes for several decades....that you would have heard a combined shout of eureka - and there would have been thousands of champagne bottles with their corks popping..and there would be much hand clapping and high fiving and perhaps the excuse to take the day off....with such an incredible discovery as this.

Yet no bottles have been uncorked, no hands have slapped,,,,,no celebrations. Instead a curious embarrassed silence that surrounds the stark complexity of the cell!

Isn’t that amazing? Why is that?

Because what they found is not what they wanted to find.

They wanted to find something simple and they found the most complex thing on the face of this earth. And there is this as he says “eerie silence”.

In the last decade or so, since this discovery has been made...there have been thousands of articles scientific papers, books written about it to other scientists describing this astonishing lilliputian world of trillions of machines. But he began to make a computer search of all of the the books, reports, articles, scientific conventions - to find something that at least attempted to explain where that mind boggling complexity came from - at the very rock bottom level of our existence.

He says - There was a strange and eerie silence....

...thousands of articles talking about it...not one of these thousands of articles attempting even to explain it. It is beyond the ability of evolutionary science because they are irreducibly complex.

So, though Dr. Behe never claims to be a creationist he does however, at the end, come to the conclusion that there is absolutely no other explanation than the fact that there was a great designer. He says -

“the result of these cumulative efforts to investigate the cell, to investigate life at the molecular level, is a loud clear piercing cry of design!”

But you see evolution will not allow for any design...evolution teaches that no one took nothing and out of nowhere created everything.

Is it any surprise that people who are taught that come to believe that there is no purpose for their lives.

Dr. Lynn Margulis, the distinguished Professor of biology at Univ of Massachussetts says this: that History will ultimately judge neo Darwinism as “ a minor 20th century religious sect. “

That is what it is. The religion of the unbeliever. And it is because of theological and philosophical commitments that they are willing to ignore so much of the evidence that denies their views.

Of course the media is in utter complicity with them. That’s why this has not made the headlines that it should have. in fact probably few of you have read any article in any newspaper about this...

There is this “eerie silence”.

But professor Behe says that the search that he made through books, articles, records, and records and papers of ever sort going through vast computer storage to find them - the results always were the same - there has never been a meeting or a book or a paper on details of the evolution of complex biochemical systems. It is beyond their ability to explain.

It is indeed the refutation of their view.

Why don’t they want to see this? Well, he gives an explanation that I like...

He says - that detectives come to a large house with a large room and there they find a man who has been flattened like a pancake in the middle of the floor. Who has done this horrendous crime and they search for the man who has done this - and they crawl around the floor - and it seems like they don’t notice that standing a few feet from the man is a very large gray elephant. They crawl around the floor examining with magnifying glasses the poor pancaked man on the floor ....

They avoid bumping into the legs of the elephant and they pretend he is not there. A child coming to door would say that it’s quite evident.... the elephant stomped him into the ground.

But you see....They are afraid of the word design. They are afraid that If they have the word design on the side of the elephant...

If they acknowledge that word - just possibly - on the other side of the elephant might be found the word.... God - who is the great Designer.

My friends, what this proves is that the kidnappers have been caught.

Those that carried away the scientific movement created by Christians - to draw us closer to God....and have postulated a naturalistic materialistic atheistic world and have indoctrinated hundreds of millions of students in it across the world have been at last found out for what they are - that they have been teachers of falsehoods, and they have promulgated the great lie....it’s all false, it (evolution) could never ever even have gotten started at all.

People ask if God has a sense of humor. I think he does. And I trust as this begins to permeate the society as it inevitably will - you can’t censor it completely.... and more and more people find out - there is going to be a revolution in thinking and evolution will come to be thought of as merely a small cult, a sect, of the 20th century.

When the kidnapping took place,and people set out to prove that there was no God, and that life was merely the result of naturalistic and materialistic causes, ....God looked down at one of the 3 trillion cells in your body each inhabited by a trillion complex machines, and he looked into that machinery and he smiled and He said - wait til they get a look at this.

Prayer: Father we thank thee that thou that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh at the ungodly who seek to remove you from the very world that you created and who though themselves made by your hand deny their maker and seek to bring others to disbelief...we pray oh Lord that this marvelous discovery will take its place in the list of vastly important discoveries of the past and the full spiritual and religious significance of it will begin to be understand and that people will see that the greatest scientific statement about origins that has ever been made is this - that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth - and we are fearfully and wonderfully made....in thy name, amen.

Get Darwin’s Deadly Legacy - Darwinism is at the root of racism, communism, Marxism....Evolution is a philosophy of death - Darwinists continue to ignore the fact that evolution’s “randomness” totally contradicts the order and design of the universe ....share it with neighbors, friends, young people, college students.


276 posted on 04/19/2008 4:39:10 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: MrB; Aristotelian; NordP; GunsareOK; mombonn; Cathy; Para-Ord.45; tokenatheist; D_Idaho; ...

Please see post 276. Enjoy (many of you)...better yet...go listen to the audio at the linked site....and of course feel free to comment away.

Some obviously will not enjoy that post / audio message.
And, yes, this is a message from a Christian Minister from the Christian world-viewpoint. Note: All of the founders of modern science were....Christian!

However, Dr. Behe has said he is not a “creationist”....yet read about his investigation and conclusion....about the treatment of the astounding microbiological discovery re: the FACT that a so called “simple cell” (the foundational notion which Darwin used to persuade many that evolution was “fact” since it, at its core, was a progression from the “simple” to the “complex”…..actually is not simple at all – in fact it is most complex – composed of TRILLIONS of tiny machines…..showing as Dr. Behe says clear stark evidence of DESIGN in our cells…….

So read or listen, and, some of you, enjoy!
(Those who support evolution as “scientific truth” - please explain why this discovery of the composition of our cells of trillions of tiny machines....is not commonly known by the “general public” or taught - in our Middle and High School science classes..yet?)


277 posted on 04/19/2008 5:23:22 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

If a designer exists why did he design us with so many drawback, flaws and defects?


278 posted on 04/19/2008 5:37:47 AM PDT by tokenatheist (Can I play with madness?)
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To: tokenatheist

Think Slartybartfast. There were interruptions and distractions


279 posted on 04/19/2008 5:40:41 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: tokenatheist

>>If a designer exists why did he design us with so many drawback, flaws and defects?<<

There is a Twilight Zone from the 60s that answers this question.

A man dies and goes to his reward. There he finds beautiful women to fawn over him, gambling and great drink. When he bet, he won and the ladies followed him everywhere.

After a while it all became boring and he asked, “What kind of Heaven is this?”

“Who said it was heaven?” the Devil replied.

If we were all perfect, it wouldn’t be very fun would it?


280 posted on 04/19/2008 6:10:55 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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