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AP-Yahoo poll shows McCain winning back unhappy Republicans
AP ^ | Apr 17, 2008 | ALAN FRAM and TREVOR TOMPSON

Posted on 04/17/2008 6:10:40 AM PDT by tlb

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To: tlb

Vote for McCain.... For the Children and the Troops and the Puppies...


121 posted on 04/18/2008 5:09:17 PM PDT by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: Golden Gate

And how do you do that now that Mccain has the required delegates?


122 posted on 04/18/2008 5:52:06 PM PDT by Shryke
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To: Shryke

Sorry Shryke,

This is about principles and my conscience.

This isn’t rhetoric by me.

I mean what I am I saying.

I cannot vote for McCain and still look at myself in the mirror.

A vote for McCain is meaningless to me.


123 posted on 04/18/2008 11:13:15 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (GOP: If you reward bad behavior all you get is more bad behavior.)
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To: SoConPubbie

And what will you do when Obama fills our SC with ultra liberal judges? And raises your taxes? And sends us into a depression? And loses the war on terror? What will you say when ALL of New York is a smoldering ruin? That you somehow saved conservativism?


124 posted on 04/19/2008 7:59:01 AM PDT by Shryke
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To: tlb

“AP-Yahoo poll shows McCain winning back unhappy Republicans”

How’s he doing with pi$$ed off conservatives?


125 posted on 04/19/2008 9:07:41 AM PDT by Grunthor (McCain 2008 -Bite the pillow. - roamer_1)
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To: tlb

Compared to Hussein or Hillary, McCain is a god-send. That’s probably why he’s been winning back the “base,” the sheer insanity of letting hussein or hillary become president pales in comparison to voting for an independent/moderate republican.


126 posted on 04/19/2008 9:13:41 AM PDT by Tears of a Clown
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To: Nervous Tick
into John’s arms (where else can they go).

Watch and see. McCain will not be the only dog in the hunt.

127 posted on 04/19/2008 9:28:52 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: faithinchaos
Then you might as well vote for Obama then.

Why? What difference would that make?

As bad as you say McCain is would you rather have Obama or Hillary who are light years worse than McCain can ever be?

Yes, a Dem win would be preferable to McCain

I can’t believe people hate McCain so much that they wouldn’t vote at all or vote for some thrid party canidate and therefore help put Obama in the White House.

It isn't hate, It_is_principle, as always. If a Conservative rises up, either 3rd or independent, he will get my vote and my $$. If that is not the case, then I will write in a candidate.

I will never vote for McCain. He is without honor, and is not worthy of the office.

128 posted on 04/19/2008 9:38:33 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

>> McCain will not be the only dog in the hunt.

Really? Who else?


129 posted on 04/19/2008 9:48:10 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: Southack; MBB1984
try to *listen* to what others are saying...

Listen to the TRUTH.
I dare you.

130 posted on 04/19/2008 10:36:54 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: comebacknewt
However, given that I am not at all certain that one of Obama's first acts in office would not be to unilaterally surrender to the terrorists, I can't see any circumstance that would make me find his victory acceptable.

Then it only stands to reason that you should rally to a 3rd or independent, attempting to energize the base around such, rather than trying to shove this nominee down our throats.

The point of decision is whether one believes McCain can win without Conservative votes (which he will not receive in any circumstance).

If you believe that to be highly unlikely, as I do, then a 3rd or (I) becomes the only feasible path to block a dem win, and the only means to get the Conservative base out to vote for lower offices, rather than staying home. That suggests coattails, where McCain has none.

131 posted on 04/19/2008 10:53:55 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Nervous Tick; roamer_1

>> Who else?

Ah... just as I thought.

The sound of crickets is deafening.

There IS no one else you can name.


132 posted on 04/19/2008 11:26:31 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: Nervous Tick
Really? Who else?

Bob Barr is the likely candidate for the Libertarians, and Keyes is favored for the Constitution Party. Either of these are more palatable to Conservatives than McCain, with Keyes being the surest choice...

133 posted on 04/19/2008 11:36:09 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1; Nervous Tick

Nevermind... I get it. Alan Keyes.

FRiend, I LIKE Alan Keyes. I like Duncan Hunter, too. And Fred Thompson.

But to believe that any of these fine men stands even a ghost of a chance of being elected POTUS at this point is to engage in delusional behavior.

I have been through a round of delusional behavior myself, when I voted for a guy who had more of a chance and more critical mass than Alan Keyes. His name was Ross Perot, and my “reward” for taking that futile stand was... eight years of Bill Clinton.

I make mistakes, but I try to learn from them.

By the way, I like the “Business Ethics” on your homepage.


134 posted on 04/19/2008 11:36:50 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: Nervous Tick
Ah... just as I thought. The sound of crickets is deafening.

Not at all... I am working, and was on the phone with a client.

135 posted on 04/19/2008 11:37:49 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

>> Bob Barr is the likely candidate for the Libertarians

Bob Barr is NOT on my list, anywhere.

He’s not in the same class as Alan Keyes.

Alan Keyes is solid, sensible, predictable.

Bob Barr is a nut case. Let me rephrase that: Bob Barr is a has-been nut case.


136 posted on 04/19/2008 11:38:48 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: roamer_1

>> Not at all... I am working, and was on the phone with a client.

Ha ha! We’re out of phase — ‘cause now I have to go back to work! :-)

FRegards


137 posted on 04/19/2008 11:41:38 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (I'm not voting FOR John McCain -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary/Obama)
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To: Nervous Tick
I have been through a round of delusional behavior myself, when I voted for a guy who had more of a chance and more critical mass than Alan Keyes. [...] I make mistakes, but I try to learn from them.

As I said up thread, I don't think McCain can beat a ham sandwich without the Conservatives, and they (especially the Christians) won't be voting for him.

There is no 'critical mass' for McCain.

In the light of that, If a grassroots effort gathers behind behind another, we would be well off to support it.

Perot was a predictable failure, as he was not able to embrace the entirety of Conservatism. McCain is in that same position. Keyes (and Barr) are not. Keyes, especially, is a Reagan Conservative, certainly possessing the ability to speak to all three pillars. That is a difference of gigantic proportions.

If Perot was able to garner 20% appealing to libertarians and fiscal conservatives, What more could a Reagan Conservative do?

138 posted on 04/19/2008 12:14:27 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Bob Barr is NOT on my list, anywhere. He’s not in the same class as Alan Keyes. Alan Keyes is solid, sensible, predictable.

While I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment, even Barr is more likely to stir the base than McCain. At least the base is not adamantly set against him.

That said, of the possible candidates we know of at this time, Keyes is certainly my favorite. If he is in the running, I will vote for him. As I consider myself a Reagan Conservative, I can do no other.

139 posted on 04/19/2008 12:24:22 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Ha ha! We’re out of phase — ‘cause now I have to go back to work! :-)

LOL! NP. FReegards.

140 posted on 04/19/2008 12:25:35 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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