Posted on 04/16/2008 1:39:51 PM PDT by MissouriConservative
Several women from the polygamist retreat raided more than a week ago defended their lifestyle Wednesday in an exclusive interview with FOX News, calling it "a wonderful pure life," and saying government officials deceived them when they raided the ranch where they live.
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"I want the world to know that our children have been torn from us and that they need us," said Sally, a mother of nine.
"They told us that they were going to put us on a bus and take us to where it was a bigger, better place to be — where our family could be together," she added.
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On Monday, officials began separating women and some of their offspring without warning, members of the sect said.
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Texas Children's Protective Services spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner said officials decided that children are more truthful in interviews about possible abuse if their parents are not around.
"I can tell you we believe the children who are victims of abuse or neglect, and particularly victims at the hands of their own parents, certainly are going to feel safer to tell their story when they don't have a parent there that's coaching them with how to respond," Meisner said.
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No, I didn’t see them on Factor but I’m not surprised at the statement by Jessop. I think too many freepers are making knee jerk reactions and are not considering the fact that these women will do practically anything to protect their husbands. They need to be kept away from their children.
You’ve missed some threads I see.....
Seriously, we’ve been told it’s mans dream-— (and we women need to deal with it because that’s reality).
Yep, that’s why terms like ‘marriage, wives, statutory rape!?!’ etc put a burr under my tail.
As an asside, I read the transcript last night of a girl that David Koresh had sex with when she was 10-— he read the Bible to her afterwards. She was 14 when she told her story and she kept saying “I was only 10!”
She knew it was wrong.
OK, now let's put this into even more of a proper perspective: Pick out one of those local public high schools with a high pregnancy rate that you mentioned...Hypothetical: Now let's say you're that school district's board member, and you get other board members to agree with your idea of converting that school student body into a free-wheeling co-ed boarding school where males have easy access to coeds on campus 24/7.
And then, surprise, surprise...3-8 months after implementation, gee, golly-wiz, the pregnant rate @ the boarding school starts to skyrocket even higher (well, who would have imagined that?)
But that's OK. I'm sure some online apologist trying to cover up for my hypothetical scenario of a stupid decision on your part as a board member would come along and say something like...I can find 121 pregnant teenagers just by trolling the local abortion clinics. In the 50s many teens were pregnant and married in coed homes, etc. etc....
Why do we need to spell out the obvious to so many of you? You place vulnerable pre-teen and early teen girls in a cloistered, isolated near lock-down environment with 40 and 50 yo men who stockpile young wives like it's a buy one-get-5-free sale, and they've been generationally repeating this exploitation for over 75 years as fundamentalist Mormons and for 70+ years prior to that as mainstream Mormons...and now, in this specific case it appears that there's even more parent-child separation than other fLDS communities...leaving these children even more vulnerable than what's been reported for those other communities...and all we see from posters like you are flaccid statistical justifications that only reveals you have zero insight as to what actually has been occurring in communities like Juarez Mexico (1890s, early 1900s); Bountiful, Canada (1890s on); Hildale, UT & Colorado City, AZ (1930s on)...
Makes me want to take a shower after I leave this place. (shudder)
Wonder what church his parole officer attends?
We saw this last summer when the US Senate was telling us why it was good to have houseboys and bedwarmers in abundance.
It was still slavery they were talking about, and so is this.
Took the cops years to figure that one out ~ steal used stuff to sell!
Ervil had an appliance repair business that was a front for this.
If the FLDS is into half the stuff Erv was into we will see no end to the trials.
Took the cops years to figure that one out ~ steal used stuff to sell!
Ervil had an appliance repair business that was a front for this.
If the FLDS is into half the stuff Erv was into we will see no end to the trials.
I think the conditions are is obvious. The State of Arizona is not willing to enforce a warrant from Texas at this point based on such limited evidence.
It does not mean that the guy is not guilty...it just means that the State of Texas is going to have to come up with more evidence.
And...based on what I have read and those who have been willing to talk about it at this point, both in Texas and in Arizona (and I do not mean the people from the sect either), I agree.
I hope Texas can firm up their case so that they can go after these people in such a way as to make it stick. Time will tell.
Arizona suspiciously is not saying what other days the guy was certified to be in the state by his parole officer. Wonder why that is?
We need to realize where this "breeding" mentality originated. LDS Mormons call the "top three" in their church "the First Presidency." In 1899, the "first counselor" member of the "First Presidency" was George Q. Cannon, whose two sons maintained control at one point of the Mormon-owned Deseret News.
The People of the world do not believe in breeding, but we do. -- LDS member of the First Presidency, 1899
At a stake conference, Cannon said: The people of the world do not believe in breeding, but we do. So the people of the world will die out and we will fill the whole earth. I admit those raising children by plural wives are not complying with man-made laws, but in the sight of God they are not sinning, as there is no sin in it. (George Q. Cannon, Sanpete Stake conference, Sept., 1899. Smoot Investigation, Vol. 1, p. 9.)
Please note that fLDS still to this very day reference Cannon's quote.
Last weekend I read somewhere that when the coumpound in El Dorado was built Warren Jeffs had children from other locations taken from their parents and brought to El Dorado. Did anyone else read in this in either a newspaper or here on freepers? I can’t find the article again. Please help if you can. Thanks
Re” about 100 women choosing to go to a shelter rather than back to the compound:
Where did I read that?
I am sorry to say I don’t know. On a casual comment site like FR, I’d mention it, but I can’t back it up. I have been reading all the posts on FR about it because I am very interested and concerned, particularly about the kids. So I can’t cite the source. I believe I read it on one of the many posts here on FR.
I think most of the articles are indexed with the keyword "FLDS". If you search on that term you will get a list of threads.
That is why I am VERY VERY leery of Prosecuting these kind of cases without Real physical evidence
Oh, like DNA evidence proving the perverts heading this cult impregnated underage girls? The evidence is living in foster homes.
Sounds like a job for ground penetrating radar. If they did off some of the boys, I'll volunteer to operate the lethal injection machine.
No. The only women allowed to stay with their kids were those that had children under the age of four. The rest were told to leave. SIX of those that DIDN’T have children under four elected NOT to go back to the compound.
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