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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You can’t have it both ways.

Either you are saved or condemned, in your world, and that was predestined. That’s a lottery, and that’s fate, not faith.

Your answers are bereft of both meekness AND fear. I didn’t see the angel rending the curtain of the temple when Christ died. THAT overt interaction is something I don’t see in my life.

Do I see God in millions of subtle things in my life, unquestionably.

I have a simple and ready answer for any who ask about God, but in your world, it’s a total crap shoot.

Either you got the ticket or you didn’t, and nothing can change that. In fact, those with the ticket may are may not come to God, but the condemned are toast. You’ll just eventually come to Christ eventually, but those condemned just never will, and there was no hope for them anyway.

While I’m sure of being saved, and the elegant simplicity of Christ’s act, on all other matters having to do with how God, the angels, demons, and the Devil work, YES, I’d have to say that even exorcists are unclear on this matter.

So, where do you stand? Are we all simply looking to see if the ticket has been taped to the bottom of our chairs, or can any human be saved?

I’d be AWFULLY AFRAID of my answer to that question, and EXCEEDINGLY MEEK in crafting a response.


320 posted on 04/23/2008 4:30:16 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs; 1000 silverlings; blue-duncan; Gamecock
Either you are saved or condemned, in your world, and that was predestined. That’s a lottery, and that’s fate, not faith.

God's will is not a lottery. Read the Bible.

I didn’t see the angel rending the curtain of the temple when Christ died.

Not at all sure what you're tyring to say. God tore the veil in two as Christ died on the cross. It was an allusion to the passing of the Old Covenant of works and the beginning of the New Covenant of grace.

So, where do you stand? Are we all simply looking to see if the ticket has been taped to the bottom of our chairs, or can any human be saved?

God's truth is so obvious, so replendant, so pervasive that no man is without excuse. But the only men who will come to God are those who have first been called to Him according to His purpose. "We must be born again," not by our own will or works, but by God's will and Christ's work on the cross.

I’d be AWFULLY AFRAID of my answer to that question, and EXCEEDINGLY MEEK in crafting a response.

lol. I realize for the Catholic the sin of presumption is worthy of hell. And that is just another failing of the RCC. To the Bible-believing Christian, trusting in God's word brings confidence in His ability to finish a good work in us, as God wills.

"But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.

For not he that commendeth himself is approved, but whom the Lord commendeth." -- 2 Corinthians 10:17-18


325 posted on 04/23/2008 4:52:48 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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