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To: AmericaUnited; RinaseaofDs
I also believe Lucifer actively works against us finding Christ. Lucifer actively working to subvert the will of God makes sense to me.

Jesus sent Lucifer falling from heaven. This viewpoint makes Lucifer into a god with more power than Christ or God. It is a ludicrous belief for a professing Christian to hold.

296 posted on 04/23/2008 3:27:14 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings
I also believe Lucifer actively works against us finding Christ. Lucifer actively working to subvert the will of God makes sense to me.

So you believe that Lucifer IS NOT actively working to subvert the will of God?! That's pure, unadultered nuts!


300 posted on 04/23/2008 3:36:48 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: 1000 silverlings

Nonsense. It’s clear Satan has power, but nothing on the order of God, Christ, Holy Spirit. Lucifer is no god, but his demons refer to all of their - thing - as The Kingdom.

Have you read Job? All the way through? This isn’t an allegory, it’s an actual guy being subjected to the power of Satan.

It’s pretty plain that Christ has more power than Satan. He’s in Heaven now, and He still works in our lives. Satan works against God by hurting us, and he seems to live here.

I don’t get it, but I can live with that. What’s so ludicrous about it?


302 posted on 04/23/2008 3:50:49 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: 1000 silverlings
Jesus sent Lucifer falling from heaven. This viewpoint makes Lucifer into a god with more power than Christ or God. It is a ludicrous belief for a professing Christian to hold.

Amen!

It seems some men enjoy thinking Satan controls this life because then they can puff themselves up when they think they've vanquished Satan, forgetting that Christ has already done that for us.

Satan prowls after all of us, but the Shepherd protects His flock perfectly and always. He will lose none of His sheep whom God has given to Him.

313 posted on 04/23/2008 4:14:40 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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