Firearms Industry Responds to Mayoral Gun Summit

centredaily.com ^ | Apr. 14, 2008 | NA

[wastedyears]

They called in the National Guard.

[archy]

Nope it was C4....we (military) received standing orders that no military grade explosives aka C4 would every be issued or given to local police again. Not sure of the unit that gave it too em or where they got it but it was a C4 charge. Lots of after actions and reviews on that episode in stupidity.......

Indeed it was C4, which I believe was provided to Philly bomb disposal unit chief Frank Powell by the FBI. The Philly PD had claimed it was *just* two TR-2 Tovex *sausages*, then when under oath in the 1996 federal wrongful death civil suit, had to admit that Powell had added two M5A1 demolition charge blocks of C4 to the satchel charge he dropped from a Pennsylvania State Police helicopter after City Managing Director James S. White spilled the beans.

Whether Powell was sharp enough to have added anything else [Lewis bomb] to his C4 *bunker buster* or not, I don't know, but it did quite enough....

when it was over, 61 houses had been burned to the ground and eleven people burned to death, five of them children.

[archy]

Didn't the NOLA PD do all of the gun confiscation after Katrina? While I could be wrong, I believe that was the case.

No. Federal Marshals [or federal agents who so identified themselves] and Oklahoma National Guard troops were also involved in those confiscations, as was the BATF who may have also been the ones firing on police patrols, as well as killing five Corps of Engineers civilian contractors trying to repair the canals.

By the way: the current chief has said that if there's another disaster, he'll do it again, *agreements* with the toothless NRA be damned.

[archy]

I went thru a large east coast city last week .........at first glance I mistook the local LEO’s for Nazi’s due their dress and mannerisms. Wearing LBE, bloused boots, talking to people like dogs, packing M4’s or MP5’s etc. Not sure if they were trying to impress us or what in a joint exercise but we interacted with em like the idiots they made themselves too be .......a joke attitude we can’t afford not too address NOW !

One of my happier memories dates back to the Mississippi river flooding of 1993, when a USAF MAJGEN instructed me to remove the *civilians* from a room in which we were about to have a priority-defining meeting. Hey, do what you're told, right? So I very politely told the Superintendent of the Missouri Hiughway patrol he had to go, despite the colonel's chickens on his shoulder....

Support your local LEO’s at all costs , by all means possible yet make sure they have the proper tools to keep them safe and the community they protect even safer.

Right up to the point that the LEOs become criminals, hiding behind their badges and uniforms to get away with breaking the laws they enforce on others. It used to be that the crooked and *rule over* cops were about one in ten, lately it's more like one in three- and worse in some of the pismire urban anthills.

An M60 or other GPMG, M249/248 etc is not a proper tool for a civilian policeman.

Oh, I figure they're just keeping them for me until I'm ready to take it. But I figure they have 'em for the day when they're going to put them in the towers covering the barbedwire around the detention centers.

[archy]

Only done it for dog and pony shows for vip’s that want to know what can and can’t be done. We use ditto emboss / label guns and sheet explosives to engrave / emboss steel / bronze as well......

Ever done the dogtag trick with Detasheet?

[archy]

A SWAT guy had an M60E he was using for a raid? What the heck kind of role would a support gunner play for a simple house raid?

Shooting any kids that they run out of the burning building after the flares they shoot inside it starts a fire.

The adults are bigger and slower, and the snipers can deal with them. The kids are a harder target, so it takes an MG to hose them.

[archy]

The sight (a few years ago) of a LASD SWAT weenie with a M60 GPMG on his surplus USAF Peacekeeper internal security vehicle that the AF Security Forces in the 80’s used for nuke security made my blood boil. That asshat was half loading that damn thing in a neighborhood, the burbs, going after a single barricaded suspect.

I really sort of hate to tell you this, but Pheonix Sheriff Joe Arpaio has an M2 .50 caliber atop a tin can for his S/D SWAT team. So too does one of the SWAT teams in one of the larger Southern cities, maybe Charlotte, NC PD if IRC.

[Squantos]

Yep.....lace, flowers, lizards and coins as well......:o)

[Squantos]

Reallllllly !!

Yeah.......lets counter the threat by becoming a bigger threat too the populace........damn.

[Blue Collar Christian]

“Unbelievable. Bloomberg doesn’t even know what the laws are, that dealers are inspected, and buyers have NICS checks.”

Have you met a liberal thinker (possible oxymoron) who lets the truth get in the way of their agenda?

[Blue Collar Christian]

“An M60 or other GPMG, M249/248 etc is not a proper tool for a civilian policeman. Yes policemen are civilians regardless of their opinions or BS they are taught.”

I posted here before, when I still lived in LA, that I personally observed the LA Unified School District cops practicing with fully auto sub-guns. I can’t remember the lame excuse given me, but it was something about how they had to go off campus to deal with some of their business.

If the cops need ‘em, so do I...or verse-visa.

[Squantos]

Yep ..........agree !