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Women from polygamist sect say officials misled them
Houston Chronicle/AP ^ | 4-15-08 | JENNIFER DOBNER and MICHAEL GRACZYK

Posted on 04/15/2008 10:27:22 AM PDT by Snickering Hound

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To: lady lawyer
Polygamy is biblical. That can’t be denied.

Adultery is 'biblical' too, but it's frowned upon in the bible.

Seems pretty clear to me that God's plan was for "a man to leave his father and mother and cleave to his WIFE (not wives) and the TWO (not three or four) shall become one flesh".

Further, there are multiple verses in the New Testament that specifically state that men in leadership positions in the church are to be the husband of one wife.

Seems pretty clear, God's preference is for monogamy.

41 posted on 04/15/2008 11:50:55 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: lady lawyer

Are you suggesting that the State of TX should have done nothing?
susie


42 posted on 04/15/2008 11:52:49 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: colorcountry

Amen, cc. Thank you for your post!


43 posted on 04/15/2008 11:54:13 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY
After all, I haven't heard of anyone who was forced to be a member of their community

Well, the children are....

susie

44 posted on 04/15/2008 11:54:20 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: lady lawyer

Slavery is also Biblical.
susie


45 posted on 04/15/2008 11:55:55 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: colorcountry; 3niner
Do you have any proof whatsoever that they were excommunicated by the LDS (not Mormon) Church? Especially the children? If so, I would like a link.

Besides they came from the Arizona Strip not Utah, where they have also been in a sort of prison. Jeffs was in the process of taking the younger ones to Texas for a new crop of sex brides. Problem with Arizona and Utah for that matter is they have been looking the other way for much too long regarding these sad and strange folks. My belief is that because the COJCLDS still believes that the practice will be theirs in the afterlife, they are sympathetic. Good luck having it both ways you bright apologists.

46 posted on 04/15/2008 11:57:26 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah, where the world comes to see America!)
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To: lady lawyer

Polygamy is “Biblical” in the sense that it ALWAYS ends badly.

God’s plan is CLEARLY monogamous marriage.


47 posted on 04/15/2008 11:58:36 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a leftist Dem with energized GOP opposition, than a leftist "Republican" with no opposition.)
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To: Utah Binger

Thanks Bing. How is the weather down in Polygamy land?

It is overcast, windy and cold in Salt Lake City. Yesterday the temperature was 80*, today it is 48*.

Utah....we love thee!


48 posted on 04/15/2008 12:01:44 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: lady lawyer

Nope. Investigators found the beds in the temple.


49 posted on 04/15/2008 12:02:10 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: pepsionice
Well, there is a sixteen-year-old mother, and unless she's about to turn 17 and her baby's younger than 2-3 months, that pretty clearly indicates statutory rape (IIRC the age of consent in Texas is 16). Plus, if any of the '18-year-old' mothers have more than two children, that's also a clear tip-off. Unfortunately, I don't think there's any way to really reliably determine a teenager's or adult's age.
50 posted on 04/15/2008 12:04:32 PM PDT by Hyzenthlay (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

This is not biblical times, middle ages, nor is it the 1800’s. Its 2008.
Incest is illegal. Polygamy is illegal. So is child molestation.

While a I agree with your statement that people in the united states have a legitimate right to live according to their beliefs, they must also respect and uphold the rule of law in this country. You cannot have one without the other.

If I was driving down the freeway at 150mph and the police pulled me over, how legitimite would my defense be that I can drive at that speed because its according to my beliefs and I worship the church of open wheel racing.
Or that back in the 1800’s, there was no speed limits so I should be able to do whatever I want.


51 posted on 04/15/2008 12:04:37 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: colorcountry; Elsie

Flippin’ wind. But 60 degrees. Hard to get on the tractor today with the flying objects.

Maybe I’ll make a run down to Colorado City and see if Elsies favorite banjo player is still out there sitting on that rock.

Or make a trip to Wal-Mart in St. George and watch the poor polygs follow each other around with that blank stare on their faces. Wish I knew what to do about this.


52 posted on 04/15/2008 12:12:02 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah, where the world comes to see America!)
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To: bonfire

True. But they have no idea what they were used for, do they?


53 posted on 04/15/2008 12:13:31 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: GourmetDan

Really??? How many wives do YOU have?


54 posted on 04/15/2008 12:14:02 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Politicalmom

Where in the Bible does it say that Abraham and Israel were committing sin by their polygamous marriages? It doesn’t. Maybe your preacher’s interpretation of the Bible says it is sinful, but it isn’t in the Bible.


55 posted on 04/15/2008 12:14:49 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Tennessee Nana

Joseph Smith was not a false prophet. You don’t believe in him, but you are not the possessor of all knowledge.


56 posted on 04/15/2008 12:16:00 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: Lexington Green

When will the law go after Muslim polygamists/child abusers?
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I doubt it.


57 posted on 04/15/2008 12:17:29 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: brytlea

The Bible accepts it without comment. There is no evidence in the Bible that any of the prophets practiced it, that I’m aware of.

But the prophets did practice polygamy.


58 posted on 04/15/2008 12:18:21 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: puffer

I’m thinking more and more it was a phony tip. Probably cooked up by Jessop’s “escaped” wife and her friends on the outside. Just to make trouble for her ex. Hell hath no fury.

I base this on Little Anderson’s interviews last night with Kathleen Jessop, Jessop’s primary wife, followed by an interview with another Jessop lady, this one who ran off and expressed her extreme disgust with the favored wife.

This happens in harems and has happened from time immemorial. It’s in the Bible. The “extra” younger wives usually have it in for the older, preferred wife. There’s no way women can really live happily together in plural marriages, under the same roof. The nature of the female is to be jealous. That’s why they call them “cat fights”. Did you ever watch female cats fight for supremacy?

Everyone has been hoaxed by a bitter ex...especially Little Anderson.


59 posted on 04/15/2008 12:23:41 PM PDT by Palladin (Pennsylvania: guns, religion, and liberty.)
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To: William Tell
You don't suppose it is because vague, anonymous non-specific charges can be used to take the children but that arresting the men would require real evidence?
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BINGO!

60 posted on 04/15/2008 12:30:27 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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