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1 posted on 04/13/2008 11:24:45 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 04/13/2008 11:25:04 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 04/13/2008 11:25:36 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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You know what would solve the problem? Reintroduce corporol punishment in schools.

When I was young my grandmothr used to tell me stories of how the teachers would take the delinquent students out back to the shed and beat the living crap out of them.

I know it probably wouldn’t pass in todays leftist public school system, but its a nice thought anyway.


4 posted on 04/13/2008 11:31:54 AM PDT by newenglandredneck (Take back our Country. Deport the illegal aliens.)
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Here’s a pro-homeschooling editorial. Ping away!


5 posted on 04/13/2008 11:32:27 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Those in the national Republican leadership do the work of three men- Moe, Larry, and Curly.)
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My husband was talking to a man a work, who lives in Florida, about the teen beat down video. The man told him a story about his daughter’s senior prom. His daughter has down’s syndrome and attended a special public school for handicapped kids. The special school was invited to take part in the regular school senior prom. His daughter’s date was also a down’s kid and both fathers volunteered to chaperon the specail kids at the dance.

Well, the special kids were not a problem, but what the dads witnessed among the regular kids was appalling. He said that the kids would form a circle around a couple and the kids would go wild dancing, finishing up with the girl either being f-——, or giving the boy a Lewinski on the dance floor. He added that whites were in the minority at this school and none of the teachers or parents made a move to stop this.


6 posted on 04/13/2008 11:37:22 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE - the new euphemism for Marxist revolution)
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Respect for teachers (any adult) is gone. What do you expect when they tell kids that they are the masters of their own universe? What’s to be expected when their told that everything is okay to do as long as their happy? Respect is lost when the unborn are slaughtered and the youth of today look on while being told “It’s not a life, it’s a mother’s choice.” No value for life demonstrated to our youth equals no respect of life from the youth. This society reaps what it sows.


8 posted on 04/13/2008 11:41:45 AM PDT by swampdweller
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The more money we pour into the public school system, the worse it seems to be.
9 posted on 04/13/2008 11:41:57 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Thinking about the art teacher beat-down in Baltimore where getting educated is “acting white” in the crumbling school system that now governor Martin O’Malley presided over.

When I was in High School being a teacher was a little cool(unless you were the elderly Mr. Smith who students hated), but being a substitute teacher was a special kind of hell.

I can recall three stories, three short ones: They were all around the same grade as I had to deal with students who conversed about stealing things and fighting outside the Elementary School that I used to go to. I also had to deal with a guy at the back of my schoolbus who claimed to get drunk with “Dirty Mexicans” and another guy who claimed to be an underachieving pot smoker whose glory day was “vomiting all over the McDonald’s after a long bong session”

It was only at the very end of the 12th grade(and I was a good student) until I had enough of the antics and got into Independent Study. No more Danny Lawson constantly sleeping in class, interrupting the teacher, making barnyard noises, whispering in my ear(I want to eat your brains), and only waking up to call a classmate an “idiot” before asking me if I shot Biggy.

The first one was when we were watching Seven Brides for Seven Brothers in Guitar class. This was with a few rowdy kids(one guy doing this very terrible guitar solo with his friends every five minutes after yelling out “Jam”) who were not pleased with the movie. At that time, everybody in class was so loud that I had to move closer to the TV set to take notes.

Mr. Jam and his girlfriend or whoever she was, near the end of the movie urged the teacher to turn it off and tried to exercise control of the classroom. Whoever says that schools derive respect for authorities must’ve had their heads banged in a locker because that is one example of a complete lack of respect for good teachers. I also know that substitute teachers are supposed to be like textbook teachers as they are just substitutions but it also makes people walk over them.

Another story was in Biology class. There was this one girl, Jennifer Masters, who blamed everybody else for everything wrong. One time we had a substitute teacher.

During the time of the class there were multiple interruptions, constant wantings to go to the bathroom it was horrible. This is what you have, IMO, when you send some people who are not mature enough for school to be taught by educators. The next day of class, Jennifer blamed the teacher for acting strict when Mr. Crocker(our teacher) knew the real story.

The third one happened in Contemporary Music class. As many students came in the class, they thought it was easy and when they got a lot of bad grades it became a warzone. Especially with the substitute teacher(who always showed up when I happened to give my presentation)

Little pieces of metal/plastic came flying, I got poked on the neck by a yardstick, hangers went flying like some kind of riot. Whoever the hell is an advocate for public schooling should attend one of these classes and then get hit by a flying hanger. I am only glad that the plastic hit the player and not me.


12 posted on 04/13/2008 11:53:06 AM PDT by Merta (They Call Me The Ranting Man)
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This would have never happened in my Oklahoma high school.. the principal still had a paddle.. and gave the kids a choice between a paddling, and being sent home.. the kids ALWAYS chose the paddle because they knew it would be worse at home.. we also had a dress code.. boys hair couldn’t be below collar level and their pants had to be hemmed.. girls had to dress modestly.. none of the kids would EVER have thought to curse at the teachers, let alone beat em up.. we also had to call em “sir” or “ma’am”.


14 posted on 04/13/2008 11:54:04 AM PDT by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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Y’know, if that teacher was moi, and some F-bomb dropping Darwinian throwback came over my desk to accost me, I’d grab my handy dandy scissors and plant ‘em in the feral teen’s skullcap, Jason Voorhees style....

....and then he'd go to jail and discover violence of an unheard of level and wish to god that he had just called for help.

17 posted on 04/13/2008 11:59:24 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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Since we began this program, my oldest has graduated and is now in a great university

I can believe that...only because it's from Giles.

19 posted on 04/13/2008 12:02:14 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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The day I quit teaching in this kind of setting, I figured I could get more money and have less stress street-walking! I talked to a teacher recently who said, “We are not allowed to touch the students. I had a defiant young man (high school) who stood in the doorway of my classroom. I touched his jacket to encourage him to come in. His mother called and SCREAMED at me/ at the office, that I dared to touch him.”

I suspected she was a lib. Why else would she be risking her life?


21 posted on 04/13/2008 12:09:29 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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public schools, like the public square, can be pretty nasty places. Unfortunately homeschooling is not an option for some parents. So they have to make the best of it.

I wonder sometimes if today's homeschoolers are tomorrow's elites.

22 posted on 04/13/2008 12:09:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand ( If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you...)
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They say, “you get what you pay for”, and public schools are “free” so I guess they’re right.


24 posted on 04/13/2008 12:20:31 PM PDT by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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“virtual schooling.” That pretty well sums it up.


26 posted on 04/13/2008 12:37:37 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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There are lots of Tipping Points approaching. Parent who “get it”—that Tipping Point is a long way off. But the supply of teachers who want to get stomped (stabbed, shot, killed) in Art Class is not endless. So that those who have died in government schools will not have died in vain: Abolish government schools.


49 posted on 04/13/2008 3:05:33 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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The government schools in the cities are nothing more than holding pens.
And really, nobody cares. I know I don’t.


56 posted on 04/13/2008 4:29:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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63 posted on 04/13/2008 6:36:58 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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I went to public school and got a great education because my parents made me study.


72 posted on 04/14/2008 8:48:48 AM PDT by mysterio
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We’ve got a stack of untamed teens who can’t do arithmetic doing the math and figuring out that they can bank street credit for their constant disruptions and violent attacks upon students and teachers with the penalty for their crimes being (maybe) a milquetoast slap on their tattooed wrist.

Great article...

75 posted on 04/14/2008 9:01:51 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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