Posted on 04/13/2008 11:24:45 AM PDT by wagglebee
Did you catch the video this week of a student kicking the stuffing out of an art teacher in Baltimore, Maryland while the rest of the class cheered the pounding on? Y’know, if that teacher was moi, and some F-bomb dropping Darwinian throwback came over my desk to accost me, I’d grab my handy dandy scissors and plant ‘em in the feral teen’s skullcap, Jason Voorhees style.
From there I would proceed to snag the American flag from the corner of the room (if there was one) in order to stave off the rest of the flesh eating zombies ‘til Jason Statham came in with dual SKSes, spitting 154 grain FMJs, to assist with my safe exit.
As a teacher, I’d have painted on the front of my desk: DON’T TREAD ON ME—and I’d have the moxie to back it up.
Bumming a line from a movie with the late great Charlton Heston, it looks like the public schools (especially in the inner cities) are being run by “damned dirty apes.” The violent and obnoxious students are becoming emboldened in their bellicose behavior within the ridiculously overcrowded Public Stool System, and I believe we haven’t seen the half of this catastrophic snake. Teachers, you’d better have a serious plan in place—other than pushing a panic button—should you be next.
I’m not a prophet or a betting man, but (as stated) I’m a guessing it’s going to get worse. I’m talkin’ way bad (pardon my English; I went to Publik Skule). Mark my words. And I don’t care how much Obama talks about hope, or how many inspirational songs American Idol contestants cover, the dysfunctional die has been officially cast for increased chaos in the inner city classroom. Thank you, liberals.
We’ve got a stack of untamed teens who can’t do arithmetic doing the math and figuring out that they can bank street credit for their constant disruptions and violent attacks upon students and teachers with the penalty for their crimes being (maybe) a milquetoast slap on their tattooed wrist. Maybe. And the perks for their misbehaving? Well, they radically trump the mild and tame thump the delinquent gets on their never-utilized head.
Can you say, “Hello, pandemonium?” I knew you could.
Who the heck would want to be a teacher within such an out-of-control environment? I know if I were an undergrad with dreams of teaching “the next generation” within the Public Fool System, I think I’d switch majors after YouTubing the video of that teacher getting tenderized this week while the class was hooting and hollering.
Yep, I’d be looking for something less threatening like being a mole inside of an al-Qaeda death squad, or perhaps working as ranting Rosie’s personal assistant, or perhaps a vocation in neutering un-anesthetized, unusually angry wolverines.
It’s been four years since we pulled our teenage daughters out of the public school system and started to home school them, and I could kick myself for having waited so long. I owe you, girls. The educational, emotional, spiritual and physical progress they have made has been amazing. I’ve been ecstatically stunned at how they’ve aggressively embraced the new lease on their educational life.
Since we began this program, my oldest has graduated and is now in a great university and on her way to Boardwalk and Park Place. My other daughter is currently cruising through her online honors level classes as a girl uninterrupted.
Yep, it’s amazing that with their virtual schooling they actually get to study the basics, pursue their educational and athletic interests, and do it from wherever in the world they can get online (unlike public schools).
No longer do they have to wait for the 186% overcrowded class to decide to cease fighting and stop cussing and humping long enough that the teacher can teach the students how to write their name so that, later on in life, they can sign for their stuff once they leave whatever prison they’re in.
Are you familiar with the term "hyperbole"? How about "facetiousness"?
I will be the first to admit that a lot of what Giles writes is a little "rough" and may not appeal to everyone. But I find it hard to believe that Townhall.com would publish something if they actually that the author was prone to violence.
Nevertheless, if any other FReepers on the Moral Absolutes list were offended by this, I apologize for pinging them; if Jim Robinson or the moderators feel that the content of this thread is inappropriate, they should certainly pull the thread. It was NEVER my intent to post an offensive thread or to condone violence against children. And you will be happy to know that I have removed you from the Moral Absolutes ping list so that you will not be subjected to any more of my "hypocrisy."
It is a bit over-the-top; today’s Blackboard Jungle would star neither Heston nor Ford, not a Poitier but Oprah herself and the classes would be held at midnight on the basketball court.
No complaints here. More than that, my thanks to you for all your hard work, wagglebee!
I don’t completely agree that the times are all that different. What I see happening is that too many parents are turning over their responsibilities to be parents upon the public schools, and the public schools (who were never intended to take the place of the parents) has done a poor job in filling that role. Of course, I’m speaking in generalities (as is way too many others here). There are many very excellent public school programs all across this country that are being unfairly lumped in with those that are failing. Botton line is that it is not simply a problem of just poor schools or poor educators. That is just way too simplistic to explain the problems in education.
I know that it’s over-the-top, but I also think there is a huge difference between over-the-top and hypocritically offensive.
School influences a child for 10 to 12 hours.
You forgot that school influences begin at the bus stop and ends when after school activities are over, all homework is finished, and all social interaction with school friends ceases.
So...A child sleeps 9 to 10 hours a day. If adults need time alone then so do children. If an adult enjoys relaxing with the Internet and a TV program then so do children. Children also need time outside to exercise and play.
The actual time that a parent can spend to “deprogram” and influence a child is dwarfed by the MASSIVE amount of time that school impacts his life.
I've got to hand it to you, I've been keeping the Moral Absolutes Ping List for several years now and I don't recall a troll EVER being on that list. There are over FReepers on the list and NONE of them got zapped in the Bug Zapper thread and over the years only a handful have been banned for any reason.
But then I started reading through your past posts and the ONLY conclusion I can reach is that you are a troll (I did notice that you joined RIGHT AFTER a lot of the Darwinists got banned for their nonsense, so my guess is that you are a retread troll), who is here to promote Darwinian atheism, deny that the culture of death exists and push Obama:
“Look at the many professors denied tenure just because they defend an intelligent design theory.”
There has actually never been a case of this occurring anywhere in North America. If you can find one documented example anywhere I shall eat my hat.
Also, “Intelligent Design” is not a theory; it is already debunked creationism in a lab coat.
“The best the schools can do is create an atmosphere where having sex with everyone and anyone is considered beneath a decent girl’s dignity”
This is true, but it shouldn’t be the only thing that a school does. The Pill prevents abortions, that is a fact. To restrict its availability, whatever your motives for doing so, causes abortions.
“Why was she taken in the fashion she was taken when convicted murderers can not be taken in such an “inhumane” fashion?”
Because euthanasia remains illegal. Were it legal, her death would have been much more peaceful.
I think Kervorkian is a smart capitalist who’s seen a niche in the marketplace.
The constitution of the United States recognizes that all people are bestowed with an inherent Right to Life by our creator. Inherent in any right is the ability to choose to waive that right.
Or possibly, a third option:
Children are now taught how to use birth control in schools.
“The best the schools can do is create an atmosphere where having sex with everyone and anyone is considered beneath a decent girl’s dignity”
This is true, but it shouldn’t be the only thing that a school does. The Pill prevents abortions, that is a fact. To restrict its availability, whatever your motives for doing so, causes abortions.
Anyone, on any side of the debate, claiming ‘conclusive’ knowledge of what was taking place inside this woman’s head when she died is -at the very best- making educated guesses. There is a very good chance that Terri was incapable of ‘feeling’ anything, as indicated by her autopsy report. There is a very small chance that she was capable of feeling everything. Either way, no one knows conclusively and to claim to know the ‘truth’ is facetious.
Ridiculous fear-mongering does nothing to advance the conservative cause. There is no such thing as a ‘death-culture’ and if you insist on confusing yourself otherwise, please keep it to yourself. Making grandiose rhetorical statements only hinders understanding and knowledge.
Regardless of what a video may or may not show, to claim that you actually know what was going on in her head is facetious. You BELIEVE she felt pain, you choose not to believe the conclusion of the autopsy that she was blind, you choose to believe that she was capable of a recovery, but you do not know these things. You need to be more careful in your word choice.
And THE MOST TELLING QUOTE OF ALL!!!:
I’m with you. The speech was solid.
First, you would have to have the need to "deprogram" your child. Since my wife and I spent quality time with our children from birth to school age, and then kept up with them all throughout their school careers, there was little need to "deprogram" them from whatever SOME of their teachers inculcated them with. Second, if a parent of a public school student does not put in the time up front (birth on), then it is on the parent for how their child turns out. We raised four. They attended public schools all throughout their educational careers. All four of them vote conservative. Placing blame just on one institution is the same tired type of argument that the anti-gun people are using in fighting for taking away gun rights. The responsibility always has, and should always land on the parent. And, if the parent feels that the school their child is in does such a poor job of educating their child, then they have the responsibility for changing those circumstances.
The posting history explains a lot.
Doesn’t it?
Once the time spent waiting and riding the bus, after school activities, homework, and time with friends it is taken into consideration it is likely closer to 8 ( minimum) to 10 or 12 hours that school rules a child's life.
Also, considering the time a child needs to play, simply to have time alone, and **sleep**, parents really have little time ( proportionally) to impact a child's school day.
I honestly believe that some of these trolls are professional PR people and attorneys paid for by the NEA and Democratic Party. The personally history that they present on this message board is nothing but a front and entirely invented.
It wouldn’t surprise me.
But SoldierDad, am I wrong in assuming that your children are raised and gone — that they’re adults with their own lives now? I don’t mean to say this to undermine your experience as a Dad at all, but it is a VERY DIFFERENT world now, in the public schools, if you had young children attending today, in 2008. It has profoundly changed, even in the last 10 years. What was once considered perverse and outrageous behavior that would not have been tolerated whatsoever at school, is now common place and overlooked by staff and administration. Teaching children how to read and write and think is now the 2nd priority of schools — underneath survival and safety on campuses in every town in this country.
It is a very different world NOW, to raise children in. We have to know the REAL dangers and not just the imagined ones. Coming home each night to balance out what is happening to our children at publich school every day is like doing triage in an emergency room. And there isn’t enough hours in the evening or on the the weekends for our public schooled children to even TELL US what their life at Public school is like! They learn to suck it up — to endure the loneliness and ridicule, and to not make their parents feel badly for whatever reality they experience day to day.
Just writing this makes my heart ache for all the lost young people in this country who endure the private hell of public school, and for their parents, who believe it is their only choice, or they’re just too tired and overworked to think outside the work-place survival mentality themselves.
Just my thoughts...
Perhaps 49th thought the list was for those who absolutely have a broken moral compass. If that were true, he would have fit right in.
thanks for ‘outing’ me, I’ve been waiting for it to happen for over a year now. I would have taken the screen name “LarryTheLiberalTroll” if I thought it would get past Jim Rob.
I would like to say that, while I am a darwinian athiest, and I do support abortion, gun control, and the welfare state, and I will be ecstatic if Obama wins the election this November, I don’t think of myself as a ‘Troll’ because I don’t pick fights or denigrate people on this board (calling you a hypocrite excepted). I just want to engage in conversation with conservatives because I actually think that conservatives have some very good ideas every once in a while.
contact Jim Rob and get him to ban me if you want, but wouldn’t it be more fun to kick me around some? Let me post my wacko moon-bat theories and then go through them point by point and tell me why I’m an elitist fool? Don’t you want to try to save my damned atheist soul?
It was not that many years ago that my children were in high school. My last one graduated in 2005 (and is now serving his country in the Army). I have an eight year old grandchild who attends public school. So, I don’t think I’m out of the loop, do you?
Private hell of public school? I really find this characterization to be insulting to me, especially since I work for a public school agency. I’ve worked for four different districts so far in my career, at more than 30 different schools (I’m an itinerent employee - right now I have three schools I work at), and I’ve yet to see the horrors that people keep describing. Are there problems? You bet. Is it all doom and gloom? No. Are public school teachers all evil liberals? No. Are all the students evil and behave badly? NO, No, No. This characterization of public schools based on small bits of data reported on and sensationalized by the media is outrageous. This is the same tactic that the anti-gun lobby is using to demonize firearms. They use a small number if incidents in a country of 300,000,000 people to justify their demonization of handguns and long guns. Is that not what people are doing to public education? Generalizing a few incidents to say that in the whole of the country public education is a horror is extremely bad form.
Any dilligent parent can do it. I’m nothing special and I managed.
I would like to say that, while I am a darwinian athiest, and I do support abortion, gun control, and the welfare state, and I will be ecstatic if Obama wins the election this November, I don’t think of myself as a ‘Troll’ because I don’t pick fights or denigrate people on this board (calling you a hypocrite excepted).
Well, at least you're an honest troll.
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