Posted on 04/13/2008 11:24:45 AM PDT by wagglebee
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You know what would solve the problem? Reintroduce corporol punishment in schools.
When I was young my grandmothr used to tell me stories of how the teachers would take the delinquent students out back to the shed and beat the living crap out of them.
I know it probably wouldn’t pass in todays leftist public school system, but its a nice thought anyway.
Here’s a pro-homeschooling editorial. Ping away!
My husband was talking to a man a work, who lives in Florida, about the teen beat down video. The man told him a story about his daughter’s senior prom. His daughter has down’s syndrome and attended a special public school for handicapped kids. The special school was invited to take part in the regular school senior prom. His daughter’s date was also a down’s kid and both fathers volunteered to chaperon the specail kids at the dance.
Well, the special kids were not a problem, but what the dads witnessed among the regular kids was appalling. He said that the kids would form a circle around a couple and the kids would go wild dancing, finishing up with the girl either being f-——, or giving the boy a Lewinski on the dance floor. He added that whites were in the minority at this school and none of the teachers or parents made a move to stop this.
Maybe in some mythical past time, I might have been OK with some public school administration bureaucrat/NEA member laying a hand on my child to correct his behavior/attitude. That time is, unfortunately, long since gone.
Oddly, I attended private secondary schools where the behavior problems were few and far between, and I don't recall any of the sutdents being beaten.
Respect for teachers (any adult) is gone. What do you expect when they tell kids that they are the masters of their own universe? What’s to be expected when their told that everything is okay to do as long as their happy? Respect is lost when the unborn are slaughtered and the youth of today look on while being told “It’s not a life, it’s a mother’s choice.” No value for life demonstrated to our youth equals no respect of life from the youth. This society reaps what it sows.
Thats good. Private schools usually don’t have much in the way of behavioral problems.
I plan on sending my kids to a private k-12 Baptist school where they’ll learn the Bible and Christian morality.
Sad but very true. I am amazed at what parents let their kids get away with in public these days. It’s amazing whenever you see a kid that actually has any manners. Much of this can be traced back to the 60s generation, the universities and popular culture. It will not be hard to trace where the decline of Western Civilization began.
Thinking about the art teacher beat-down in Baltimore where getting educated is “acting white” in the crumbling school system that now governor Martin O’Malley presided over.
When I was in High School being a teacher was a little cool(unless you were the elderly Mr. Smith who students hated), but being a substitute teacher was a special kind of hell.
I can recall three stories, three short ones: They were all around the same grade as I had to deal with students who conversed about stealing things and fighting outside the Elementary School that I used to go to. I also had to deal with a guy at the back of my schoolbus who claimed to get drunk with “Dirty Mexicans” and another guy who claimed to be an underachieving pot smoker whose glory day was “vomiting all over the McDonald’s after a long bong session”
It was only at the very end of the 12th grade(and I was a good student) until I had enough of the antics and got into Independent Study. No more Danny Lawson constantly sleeping in class, interrupting the teacher, making barnyard noises, whispering in my ear(I want to eat your brains), and only waking up to call a classmate an “idiot” before asking me if I shot Biggy.
The first one was when we were watching Seven Brides for Seven Brothers in Guitar class. This was with a few rowdy kids(one guy doing this very terrible guitar solo with his friends every five minutes after yelling out “Jam”) who were not pleased with the movie. At that time, everybody in class was so loud that I had to move closer to the TV set to take notes.
Mr. Jam and his girlfriend or whoever she was, near the end of the movie urged the teacher to turn it off and tried to exercise control of the classroom. Whoever says that schools derive respect for authorities must’ve had their heads banged in a locker because that is one example of a complete lack of respect for good teachers. I also know that substitute teachers are supposed to be like textbook teachers as they are just substitutions but it also makes people walk over them.
Another story was in Biology class. There was this one girl, Jennifer Masters, who blamed everybody else for everything wrong. One time we had a substitute teacher.
During the time of the class there were multiple interruptions, constant wantings to go to the bathroom it was horrible. This is what you have, IMO, when you send some people who are not mature enough for school to be taught by educators. The next day of class, Jennifer blamed the teacher for acting strict when Mr. Crocker(our teacher) knew the real story.
The third one happened in Contemporary Music class. As many students came in the class, they thought it was easy and when they got a lot of bad grades it became a warzone. Especially with the substitute teacher(who always showed up when I happened to give my presentation)
Little pieces of metal/plastic came flying, I got poked on the neck by a yardstick, hangers went flying like some kind of riot. Whoever the hell is an advocate for public schooling should attend one of these classes and then get hit by a flying hanger. I am only glad that the plastic hit the player and not me.
This all started with the Supreme Court’s ridiculous decision that school prayer violated the first amendment and the “seperation of church and state.”
The so called “seperation of church and state” is no where to be found in the Constitution. Which leaves the fact that our nation’s courts are complacent in the secularization and moral debasement of our public school system.
This would have never happened in my Oklahoma high school.. the principal still had a paddle.. and gave the kids a choice between a paddling, and being sent home.. the kids ALWAYS chose the paddle because they knew it would be worse at home.. we also had a dress code.. boys hair couldn’t be below collar level and their pants had to be hemmed.. girls had to dress modestly.. none of the kids would EVER have thought to curse at the teachers, let alone beat em up.. we also had to call em “sir” or “ma’am”.
This all started with the Supreme Court’s ridiculous decision that school prayer violated the first amendment and the “seperation of church and state.”
The so called “seperation of church and state” is no where to be found in the Constitution. Which leaves the fact that our nation’s courts are complacent in the secularization and moral debasement of our public school system.
I am OK for a separation of Religion and State in some regards, but banning prayer from school isn’t “progressive” or “great” it is seedy and one of the dumbest things I have ever heard of.
So basically if you pray near a public building it is blasphemous to the religion of State? Like a sign said:
The definition of irony: removing the ten commandments from a courthouse but in the same one swearing your oath on a bible.
To me, the problem with separating Religion and State is that where Religion is regulated, the State picks up. So soon, that we might even have a religious temple meant to worship whoever becomes the Democrat President next year, if either Hillary or Obama wins the general nod.
....and then he'd go to jail and discover violence of an unheard of level and wish to god that he had just called for help.
Poor performance = more money. We always get more of whatever we reward. IMO, the only way out of the trap is a voucher system and a relaxation of accreditation standards (as to help avoid the pitfall of regulatory capture by currently established agents).
The only indicator which matters (unfortunately, a lagging indicator) is post-education placement (career, trades, college, university, etc). It will be messy at first, but the long-term result will be stable and optimally-performing because valuation of each school and teacher will be based upon a rational metric, not upon some arbitrary correlative standard which can be corrupted or gamed.
If the state governments wanted to provide any service in this regard, I think it would be reasonable for them to compile 1, 5, and 10 year bulk placement statistics (including unemployment information if available) for each school and teacher receiving voucher funds.
I can believe that...only because it's from Giles.
Thats why we need McCain to win in November.
As much as I would have preferred Fred Thompson at least McCain will appoint originalist Judges to the Supreme Court. Its only a matter of time considering John Paul Stevens is 88 years old.
Obama on the other hand would appoint a socialist to the Supreme Court. With a McCain presidency at least we have a chance at repealing Roe v. Wade.
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