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To: george76
They are terrorists, and violent criminals.

And beating to death a million seals, a fifth of the seal population, at a remote area of the world in three years does not terrorize the seals? What possible threat are the seals to man? Man kills them not for survival but for pleasure. Some faggot will make a lot of money designing fashion furs. Some society bitch will fawn all over her pelt garments. Somehow, I think Watson may not be a terrorist, but a freedom fighter.

It's interesting you provide the wikipedia link, but ignore citation in the link supporting Watson. For example one citation says Costa Rican prosecutors dropped charges against Watson [after they saw the films of the fishermen ILLEGALLY finning sharks}.

I'm sure the hunters will start screaming about depriving them of their rights. I don't see any right listed in the Constitution to kill animals for pleasure. The moralists will come out and tell me I am a hypocrite for eating cows. Cows are prey food. They need to be eaten to prevent them from eating all the vegetation. Seals are predators. They are on our side.

Equating Watson to a terrorists is a stretch. We are a war with Islamic terrorists who daily cut off heads or bomb to kill people. Who has Watson killed? Has he hid from his actions? Is he asking you to eat veggie burgers or else he will ruin you? I think the commercial slaughter of seals and whales using modern technology is a rotten aspect of man. It's at the same level as African poachers who kill Gorillas or the savage Muslims who torture an ancient [ENDANGERED] sea turtle before slitting it's throat. If tradition is so important to the Japanese, Aleuts, and the like, make them use the flimsy weapons and boats their ancestors used. At least give the animals a sporting chance and make the hunter take the traditional risks.

Your blood lust has you confused about terrorism.

20 posted on 04/13/2008 11:21:55 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
And beating to death a million seals, a fifth of the seal population, at a remote area of the world in three years does not terrorize the seals? What possible threat are the seals to man? Man kills them not for survival but for pleasure. Some faggot will make a lot of money designing fashion furs. Some society bitch will fawn all over her pelt garments. Somehow, I think Watson may not be a terrorist, but a freedom fighter.

A freedom fighter? Since when do animals get top billing over humans? Have a disagreement over hunting, you don't try to kill people over it. So yes, Watson is a terrorist, who uses violence and the threat of violence to compel action by others, against the rule of law. Terrorize the seals - what bull. Might as well argue that Orcas terrorize them when they feed on the colonies.

21 posted on 04/13/2008 11:31:58 AM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts; jazusamo

“There’s nothing wrong with being a terrorist, as long as you win. Then you write the history.”

— Sierra Club board member Paul Watson, at the Animal Rights 2002 convention


22 posted on 04/13/2008 11:33:41 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

A freedom fighter? Surely you jest.

He is a law breaker and common criminal and you trying to justify it speaks volumns.


23 posted on 04/13/2008 11:38:45 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

seals are a CROP no different than trees or corn.

It does not matter what the end product is used for.

It seems these eccoterrorists were far more about piracy rather than legit protest.

these are the same type of kooks who endanger hunters in the USA.


24 posted on 04/13/2008 11:45:08 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts; naturalman1975; Candor7; Nathan Zachary; WorkingClassFilth; BenLurkin; ...
Paul Watson is a sinker of ships.

Captain Watson left Greenpeace in 1977 and formed the US-based Sea Shepherd Conservation Society -- a vigilante environmentalist group that has sunk 10 ships since 1979.

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25 posted on 04/13/2008 12:02:42 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
And beating to death a million seals, a fifth of the seal population, at a remote area of the world in three years does not terrorize the seals?

The total allowable catch permitted by the Canadian government is 270,000.

Seal populations in Canada are approximately:

Harp Seals - 5.5 million

Hooded Seals - 590,000

Grey Seals - 300,000

http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/seal-phoque/faq_e.htm#1

Seal populations have nearly tripled since 1970. They aren't being hunted to extinction like your claims would make it seem. The Seal population is being properly managed.

What possible threat are the seals to man?

They aren't generally a threat to man. They are however being harvested as are fish and other game.

It's interesting you provide the wikipedia link, but ignore citation in the link supporting Watson. For example one citation says Costa Rican prosecutors dropped charges against Watson [after they saw the films of the fishermen ILLEGALLY finning sharks}.

Watson admits he has illegally attacked boats. Just because in that case the fishermen were also acting illegally does not excuse his actions in general. You're trying to rationalize criminal, terrorist activity.

I'm sure the hunters will start screaming about depriving them of their rights.

Considering that other than the rare exceptions, they are the ones obeying the law, and Watson is intentionally and illegally endangering their lives, they have every right to complain.

I don't see any right listed in the Constitution to kill animals for pleasure.

Yea, I'm sure that most of these Seal hunters just love to go out and kill seals in dangerous and extremely cold arctic climate. They do it for the sheer joy of it.

Admitting that they might have a legitimate reason to hunt seals, or even using accurate figures about seal populations does, support your goals, you misstate or ignore the facts.

That's because your cause is so important and all of us are too stupid to see how important it is if we were just shown the facts, so you need to make your cause more appealing. To bad if honesty and integrity are lost in the process.

The moralists will come out and tell me I am a hypocrite for eating cows. Cows are prey food. They need to be eaten to prevent them from eating all the vegetation. Seals are predators. They are on our side.

Yes, you're a hypocrite. Ever hear of the food chain? Almost every predator is also prey. A predator that is not also preyed upon by others animals is the very rare exception in nature. There aren't two sides, predator and prey.

Equating Watson to a terrorists is a stretch.

He advances his goals that he can not attain by legal or political means by terrorizing and threatening others. That makes him a terrorists. He doesn't use the same tactics as Islamic terrorists using suicide bombers, nor is he blatantly homicidal. But he's still a terrorist.

I think the commercial slaughter of seals and whales using modern technology is a rotten aspect of man.

Killing animals should be done as humanely as possible. Modern technology more often than not makes possible to be more humane.

You aren't making rational, well thought out arguments, you're making emotional ones.

It's at the same level as African poachers who kill Gorillas or the savage Muslims who torture an ancient [ENDANGERED] sea turtle before slitting it's throat.

That's a load of crap. These aren't poachers. If they are, Watson should turn over his evidence that they are poaching, and let the authorities prosecute them.

You say others shouldn't call Watson a terrorist, despite him clearly meeting the definition, because you don't like the connotation that his actions are similar to other, even more extreme terrorists. However, you are more than happy to try and associate people legally hunting seals with poachers a people needlessly torturing endangered animals.

Hypocrisy, rationalization, and misinformation seems to be your stock and trade in this post.

Why don't you try honestly depicting what the sealers are doing and stating your objections to it without trying to associate actions that haven't committed to them.

38 posted on 04/14/2008 10:51:23 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
I don't see any right listed in the Constitution to kill animals for pleasure.

Amendment 9.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Nice try.

L

42 posted on 04/14/2008 1:20:49 PM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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