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To: ZacandPook; EdLake; jpl; TrebleRebel
Q: Whosoever pointed to Hatfill first time? Whether by name or by identifiable descripcion??

Not Rosenberg, some-one whispered the name to her, gave her the idea. Who??

A: ???? Does any-one know? Anwser would reveal much. Anwser of <<who>> would give direction on answer of <<why>>.

Has Hatfill deposed Rosenberg on this Q?
46 posted on 04/13/2008 8:12:09 PM PDT by Khan Noonian Singh
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To: Khan Noonian Singh

I think BHR has said she had five sources working in the field, but I may be mistaken. One former FAS colleague of hers, a distinguished law professor, was actually the first to raise a “bioevangelist” theory. A smart guy, he is on all five terror lists, he reports. He has been a legal advisor to the PLO and counsel for Bosnia-Herzegovina. He tells me that (1) he was the first in the MSM to urge the “bioevangelist” theory, and (2) but he has never named Hatfill. Indeed, the chief prosecutor who leaked the sensationalist bloodhound and pond draining stories was born in 1948 in Haifa. His sister and brother-in-law were lecturing in 2002 (and his sister-in-law published in 2001) about how after 911 it was important not to jump to the conclusion that Arabs were behind the terrorism. His sister-in-law told the Washington Post in 1982 that to be born Palestine, as she was, is by definition to be political. She nonetheless said that the leading institute on contemporary Arab affairs with which she had started working then — and now heads — required that she maintain her objectivity at her day job. So I do not question the good faith of any of these individuals — but think that they had strong bias in their private life. In the case of the law professor, he is a lawyer advocating a position on behalf of clients and has worked closely with the lawyer for the blind sheik Abdel-Rahman.

I emailed BHR in December 2001 and she responded “They know who the suspects are.” I sensed cognitive rigidity then as I still do now among the same people. People tend to adhere to their original beliefs — formed shortly after considering an issue — and do not process factual information.

But if we don’t credit the good faith of all the intelligent people who were urging a close look at USAMRIID and Dr. Hatfill — and then get over the fact that the theory did not pan out and was based on a lot of faulty information
— then we will never be able to move on and digest the dramatic evidence offered by the recent FoxNews report (if we credit it as reliable).

The documentary evidence shows that Zawahiri planned on using the cover of universities and charities in weaponizing anthrax. The DIA gave me letters between Ayman and the Pakistan scientist helping him infiltrate UK biodefense. The letters expressly said this was the plan and the correspondence is corroborated by earlier memo Ayman wrote to Atef. So when we find the man taught by Bin Laden’s sheik — who is supervising the founder of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad who is writing for his charity’s publication — we should be glad for the expertise people like BHR brought to the table. Because it turns out Al-Timimi’s desk was not much more than 15 feet from the leading anthrax scientist in the world who was working with Delta Ames under a contract with USAMRIID — and the former deputy commander of USAMRIID, a prolific Ames researcher. On March 14, 2001, the leading anthrax scientist and former deputy USAMRIID commander filed a patent on how to concentrate anthrax using silica. The patent was confidential until after 9/11. As Director Mueller has said, universities must guard against the risk of theft of pre-patent, pre-classification biochemistry information.

The leaking prosecutor’s daughter then has worked for Al-Timimi pro bono in the sedition case in which he was convicted and sentenced to life plus 70 years. His conviction was reversed by of alleged NSA wiretapping. The proseccutor has not been able to find discoverable evidence of such wiretapping and in mid-March was given 60 days to try to do so.


49 posted on 04/14/2008 2:03:48 AM PDT by ZacandPook
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To: Khan Noonian Singh
Not Rosenberg, some-one whispered the name to her, gave her the idea. Who??

It was apparently a former colleage at SAIC. Dr. Hatfill criticized the guy in a meeting, and the guy held a grudge thereafter. (I don't remember if Dr. Hatfill told me that, or if it was his friend Pat Clawson. I think it was Clawson.)

Dr. Rosenberg and her followers believed the Bush administration was behind the attacks. They just didn't have a specific person to point at. They asked around and the guy from SAIC evidently offered up Hatfill as a possiblity.

Starting with a belief, they just looked around for evidence to support that belief.

All the "evidence" they found, of course, turned out to be just suspicions, innuendo, rumors, irrelevant and/or just plain false info.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

61 posted on 04/14/2008 7:35:58 AM PDT by EdLake
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To: Khan Noonian Singh
Not Rosenberg, some-one whispered the name to her, gave her the idea. Who??

Dr. Meryl Nass.

99 posted on 04/14/2008 1:32:12 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Khan Noonian Singh
Not Rosenberg, some-one whispered the name to her, gave her the idea. Who??

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In a 1992 article that was not published in an academic journal, Dr. Meryl Nass, a close associate of Hatfill-nemesis Dr. Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, cited "journalist Jeremy Brick hill" [sic], who has insisted that anonymous military contractors told him that the outbreak was a military attack by the multiracial Selous Scouts. The credibility of Brickhill, a self-described "antiapartheid activist" who claims to have fought on the side of the black rebels, is questionable. This reporter has not been able to find any record of massive, biowarfare-induced, cutaneous anthrax infections anywhere. ------"Scientist With Rhodesian Past Still Center of Media Crosshairs,"http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=267517

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To: mrustow; Shermy
The real interesting part is that Meryl Nass wrote her advocacy paper in 1992:

http://www.anthraxvaccine.org/zimbabwe.html*

Let's look at the "Acknowledgments" section: "Thanks to........ Barbara Rosenberg, Ph.D........ for contacts and encouragement."
In light of this it's always been my bet that as soon as Rosenberg heard the name "Hatfill" and "Zimbabwe" in the same sentence after the 2001 anthrax attacks, she had her man. 31 posted on 09/05/2003 5:20 AM PDT by Badabing Badaboom
[* piasa notes : IIRC, this domain name belonged to Nass. ]

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Dr. Meryl Nass...a holistic medicine doc who claims to be a bioweapons expert. She came up with the claim that a Rhodesian cutaneous anthrax outbreak was weaponized, a claim evidently close to Rosenberg's heart.

She is a member of Physicians for Social Responsibility, a leftwing group which along with Voices in the Wilderness, helped sanctions-bust in Iraq.

"... In 1993, I went to Cuba as a consultant to the Cuban Ministry of Health. ..." ~ Meryl Nass, MD.- Red Flags Weekly

Maine Doctor Leads National Campaign Against Anthrax Vaccinations
... What has Dr. Meryl Nass, an internist from Freeport, done to cause such a swirl of ... there was an epidemic of 50,000 cases of blindness in Cuba, which the ... www.commondreams.org/headlines/031100-03.htm - 22k - Cached - Similar pages

She joined a pretentiously named empty shell front group composed of names that claim to be "honorary" SEALs and so on -- meaningless crap derived from their effort to get gov bucks for "Gulf War Syndrome" and the like:

Joined IMM 2001. The Institute for Molecular Medicine 16371 Gothard Street H Huntington Beach, California 92647-3652, USA

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Who is IMM?

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The Institute for Molecular Medicine
IMM is formally affiliated with: Contaminated Veterans of America, Albuquerque, NM; Center for Complex Infectious Diseases, Rosemead, CA ... www.immed.org/ - 13k - Cached - Similar pages

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IMM is formally affiliated with: James Mobb Clinics of Harare, Zimbabwe

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Zimbabwe of course is stripped and impoverished Marxist Mugabe's turf now.

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101 posted on 04/14/2008 1:55:38 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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