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Hatfill v. US - DOJ and FBI Statement of Facts (filed Friday)
US DOJ and FBI Memorandum In Support of Motion For Summary Judgment (Statement of Facts) | April 11, 2008 | Department of Justice

Posted on 04/13/2008 8:20:52 AM PDT by ZacandPook

On Friday, the government filed this statement of the facts in its memorandum in support of its motion for summary judgment in a civil rights and Privacy Act lawsuit brought by Dr. Steve Hatfill.

“The anthrax attacks occurred in October 2001. Public officials, prominent members of the media, and ordinary citizens were targeted by this first bio-terrorist attack on American soil. Twenty-two persons were infected with anthrax; five died. At least 17 public buildings were contaminated. The attacks wreaked havoc on the U.S. postal system and disrupted government and commerce, resulting in economic losses estimated to exceed one billion dollars. The attacks spread anxiety throughout the nation – already in a heightened state of alert in the wake of the attacks of September 11 – and left behind a lasting sense of vulnerability to future acts of bioterrorism. Given the unprecedented nature of the attacks, the investigation received intense media attention. Journalists from virtually every news organization pursued the story, sometimes conducting their own worldwide investigation to determine the person or persons responsible for the attacks and the motive behind them.

A. Journalistic Interest In Hatfill That Predates Alleged Disclosures

Testimony has revealed that at least certain members of the media began focusing their attention upon Hatfill in early 2002 because of tips they had received from former colleagues of his who found him to be highly suspicious. Articles about Hatfill thus began to appear in the mainstream press and on internet sites as early as January of 2002, and continued until the first search of his apartment on June 25, 2002, which, in turn, led to even more intense press attention.

Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, a Professor at the State University of New York, for example, complained in January and February 2002 on the Federation of American Scientists’ (“FAS”) website of the FBI’s apparent lack of progress on the investigation, and described generally the person she believed was the “anthrax perpetrator.” “Analysis of Anthrax Attacks,” Possible Portrait of the Anthrax Perpetrator (Section IV.6), Defendant’s Appendix , Ex. 1. Rosenberg did not identify Hatfill by name, but described him in sufficient detail: a “Middle-aged American” who “[w]orks for a CIA contractor in Washington, DC area” and [w]orked in USAMRIID laboratory in the past” and “[k]nows Bill Patrick and probably learned a thing or two about weaponization from him informally.” Id. In his amended complaint, Hatfill states that “Professor Rosenberg’s ‘Possible Portrait of the Anthrax Perpetrator’ . . . described [him].”

In addition to her postings on the FAS website, Professor Rosenberg also presented a lecture on February 18, 2002 at Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, entitled “The Anthrax Attacks and the Control of Bioterrorism.” Ex. 2. During the course of her lecture, Rosenberg stated that she had “draw[n] a likely portrait of the perpetrator as a former Fort Detrick scientist who is now working for a contractor in the Washington, D.C, area[.]” Ex. 3. Rosenberg also commented upon Hatfill’s whereabouts on the date of the attacks, stating that “[h]e had reason for travel to Florida, New Jersey and the United Kingdom” – where the attacks had been and from which the letters had been purportedly sent – that “[h]e grew [the anthrax], probably on a solid medium, and weaponised it at a private location where he had accumulated the equipment and the material.” Id. Rosenberg also stated that the investigation had narrowed to a “common suspect[,]” and that “[t]he FBI has questioned that person more than once[.]” Id. Former White House Spokesperson, Ari Fleischer, immediately responded to Rosenberg’s comments, stating that there were several suspects and the FBI had not narrowed that list down to one. Ex. 4. The FBI also issued a press release, stating that it had “interviewed hundreds of persons, in some instances, more than once. It is not accurate, however, that the FBI has identified a prime suspect in this case.” Id. Rosenberg’s comments and writings were subsequently pursued by The New York Times (“The Times”). In a series of Op-Ed articles published from May through July 2002, Nicholas Kristof, a journalist with The Times, accused Hatfill of being responsible for the anthrax attacks. Kristof wrote on May 24, 2002 that the FBI was overlooking the anthrax perpetrator, noting that “experts” (Professor Rosenberg) point “to one middle-aged American who has worked for the United States military bio-defense program and had access to the labs at Fort Detrick, Md. His anthrax vaccinations are up to date, he unquestionably had the ability to make first-rate anthrax, and he was upset at the United States government in the period preceding the anthrax attack.” Ex. 5.

Hatfill first noticed the Kristof columns in May 2002. Hatfill Dep. Tran. in Hatfill v. The New York Times, No. 04-807 (E.D.Va.), Ex. 6, at 13: 3-6. According to Hatfill, “[w]hen Mr. Kristof’s article appeared, it was the first [time] that [he] realized that [his] name [was] in the public domain with connection with an incident of mass murder.” Id. at 16:15-18. Hatfill has charged that The Times began the “entire conflagration and gave every journalist out there reason to drive this thing beyond any sort of sanity. Mr. Kristof lit the fuse to a barn fire and he repeatedly kept stoking the fire.” Id. at 43:19 - 44:1. In July 2004, Hatfill thus filed suit alleging that these articles libeled him by falsely accusing him of being the anthrax mailer. Complaint, Hatfill v. The New York Times, No. 04-807 (E.D.Va.), Ex. 7.

Hatfill alleges in that lawsuit that “Kristof wrote his columns in such a way as to impute guilt for the anthrax letters to [him] in the minds of reasonable readers.” Id. ¶ 12. The articles, Hatfill claimed, which described his “background and work in the field of bio-terrorism, state or imply that [he] was the anthrax mailer.” Id. ¶ 14. Hatfill specifically alleged that statements in Kristof’s articles were false and defamatory, including those that stated that he: (1) “‘unquestionably had the ability to make first-rate anthrax’”; (2) “had the ‘ability’ to send the anthrax”; (3) “had the ‘access’ required to send the anthrax”; (4) “had a ‘motive’ to send the anthrax”; (5) “was one of a ‘handful’ of individuals who had the ‘ability, access and motive to send the anthrax’”; (6) “had access” to an ‘isolated residence’ in the fall of 2001, when the anthrax letters were sent”; (7) “‘gave CIPRO [an antibiotic famously used in the treatment of anthrax infection] to people who visited [the ‘isolated residence’]”; (8) his “anthrax vaccinations were ‘up to date’ as of May 24, 2002”; (9) he “‘failed 3 successive polygraph examinations’ between January 2002 and August 13, 2002”; (10) he “‘was upset at the United States government in the period preceding the attack’”; (11) he “‘was once caught with a girlfriend in a biohazard ‘hot suite’ at Fort Detrick [where Hatfill had concedely worked] surrounded only by blushing germs.’” Id. ¶ 16 (brackets in original). Hatfill alleges in his lawsuit against The Times that “[t]he publication of [Kristof’s] repeated defamation of [him] . . .gave rise to severe notoriety gravely injurious to [him].” Id. ¶ 29. The injury, Hatfill alleged, “was [made] all the more severe given the status and journalistic clout of The Times.” Id. This harm was compounded, Hatfill alleged, by the fact that these articles were “thereafter repeatedly published by a host of print and on-line publications and on the television and radio news” in the following months. Id., ¶ 30.

The case was initially dismissed by the trial court. Hatfill v. The New York Times, No. 04-807, 2004 WL 3023003 (E.D.Va.). That decision was reversed by the United States Court of Appeals, Fourth Circuit, 416 F.3d 320 (4th Cir. 2005). Upon remand, the trial court granted The Times summary judgment, finding that Hatfill was a public figure and public official and had failed to present evidence of malice. Hatfill v. The New York Times, 488 F. Supp. 2d 522 (E.D. Va. 2007). In arriving at that conclusion, the court considered Hatfill’s repeated media interviews before the attacks; the fact that he had “drafted a novel, which he registered with [the] United States Copyright office, describing a scenario in which a terrorist sickens government officials with a biological agent”; and had lectured on the medical effects of chemical and biological agents. Id. at 525.

Although not recited by the district court in The New York Times litigation, Hatfill also talked directly to reporters about his suspected involvement in the attacks. Brian Ross of ABC News, and his producer, Victor Walter, for example, talked separately to Hatfill on two to three occasions as early as January and February 2002, Ross Dep. Tran., Ex. 8, at 263:14 - 270:1, and continued talking to Hatfill until May of that year. Id. Ross also spoke to Hatfill’s friend and mentor, William Patrick, about Hatfill. Id. at 287:9 - 295:12. These meetings were prompted by discussions ABC News had in January 2002 with eight to twelve former colleagues of Hatfill at the United States Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (“USAMRIID”). Id. at 242:7 - 246:14. Hatfill’s former colleagues found him to be “highly suspicious because of a number of things he had done when he worked at [USAMRIID], and this behavior was strange "and unusual and they felt that he was a likely candidate.” Id. at 242: 7-17. These meetings were also prompted by ABC News’s own investigative reporting into Hatfill’s background; the more ABC News learned “the more interested [they] became” in Hatfill. Id. at 264: 14-15.

Scott Shane of the Baltimore Sun also spoke to Hatfill in February 2002. Shane also spoke to USAMRIID employees who had worked with Hatfill. Ex. 9. These employees stated that they had been questioned by the FBI and “asked about a former Fort Detrick scientist” – Hatfill – “who returned a few years ago and took discarded biological safety cabinets, used for work with dangerous pathogens.” Id. at 1. These employees claimed that Hatfill “ha[d] expertise on weaponizing anthrax and ha[d] been vaccinated against it[.]” Id. Shane also called one of Hatfill’s former classmates, who was “plagued” by questions from the Baltimore Sun and others within the media regarding Hatfill’s “alleged involvement with the large anthrax outbreak in Zimbabwe[.]” Ex. 10. According to Hatfill, this classmate was told by Shane that Hatfill was purportedly responsible for “mailing the anthrax letters and also starting the [anthrax] outbreak in Zimbabwe/ Rhodesia twenty years before.” Ex. 11, at AGD29SJH00014; see also e-mail to Hatfill fr. DF Andrews, dated Mar. 1, 2002, Ex. 10. Hatfill told Shane in February 2002 that he had been “questioned by the FBI” and that “he considered the questioning to be part of a routine effort to eliminate people with the knowledge to mount [the] attack.” Ex. 9. Hatfill also confirmed for Shane that he had taken an FBI polygraph. Ex. 12, at 2. In March 2002, Hatfill left Shane a frantic telephone message reportedly stating how he had “been [in the bioterrorism] field for a number of years, working until 3 o’clock in the morning, trying to counter this type of weapon of mass destruction” and fearing that his “career [was] over at [that] time.” Ex. 13, at 2. According to Hatfill, Shane later Case 1:03-cv-01793-RBW Document 232-2 Filed 04/11/2008 Page 17 of 73

____ Hatfill did not sue either Shane or Rosenberg, even though Hatfill has stated that Rosenberg “caused” the focus on him. Ex. 14, at 10. Because Hatfill believed that the portrait Rosenberg painted at the February 2002 Princeton conference and in her website postings was so identifying and incriminating, however, Hatfill advised Rosenberg through his lawyers that “before [she] get[s] close to describing him in the future, by name or otherwise, [that she] submit [her] comments for legal vetting before publishing them to anyone.” Ex. 15. There is no evidence that the agency defendants bore any responsibility for the media presence. Information about FBI searches is routinely shared with a variety of state and local law enforcement authorities. Roth Dep. Tran., Ex. 16, at 163:5 -165:21; Garrett Dep. Tran. Ex. 17, at 79: 8-18. ______

compounded Hatfill’s problems by calling his then-employer, Science Applications International Corporation (“SAIC”), and accusing Hatfill of being responsible for the anthrax attacks, Ex. 11, at AGD29SJH00014, which, according to Hatfill, cost him his job as a contractor at SAIC. Id. 1

The media frenzy surrounding Hatfill intensified upon the search of his apartment on June 25, 2002, and the search of a refrigerated mini-storage facility in Ocala, Florida on June 26, 2002. Both were witnessed by the media, and the search of his apartment was carried live on national television. In addition to the television coverage, the searches generated a slew of articles about Hatfill throughout the media, one fueling the next. The Associated Press, for example, detailed in an article, dated June 27, 2002, Hatfill’s (1) work as biodefense researcher, including studies he had conducted at SAIC, and the work he had done at the USAMRIID; (2) his educational background; (3) where he had previously lived; and (4) security clearances he had held and the suspension of those clearances. Ex. 18. The Hartford Courant reported these same details, and additional information regarding Hatfill’s purported service in the Rhodesian army. Ex. 19. The next day -- June 28, 2002 -- the Hartford Courant reported details about Hatfill’s background in biological warfare, his vaccinations against anthrax, questioning that purportedly had occurred among Hatfill’s colleagues, his educational background (including the claim that he had attended medical school in Greendale), and lectures that he had given on the process of turning biological agents into easily inhaled powders. Ex. 20. None of this information is attributed to a government source.

B. Hatfill’s Public Relations Offensive

In July 2002, after these reports and after the first search of Hatfill’s apartment on June 25, 2002, Hatfill retained Victor Glasberg as his attorney. Glasberg Dep. Tran., Ex. 21, at 12: 16-19. Glasberg believed that “any number of people in the media [had] overstepped their bounds. . . . prior to July of 2002 .” Id. at 141:1 - 142:6. To counter this information, Hatfill set out on a “public relations offensive” of his own to “turn [the] tide.” Id. at 138: 20-21, 178: 12-13.

Recognizing that Hatfill “continue[d] [to] get[] killed with bad press, national as well as local[,]” Hatfill drafted a statement and Glasberg forwarded that statement in July 2002 to Hatfill’s then-employer at Louisiana State University (“LSU”). Ex. 11, at 1. The statement detailed Hatfill’s background, including his medical training and employment history, and provided details about Hatfill’s involvement in the anthrax investigation, including how he had been interviewed by the FBI and had taken a polygraph examination. Id. at AGD29SJH00002-13. Hatfill’s statement corroborated the conversations that Hatfill reportedly had with Scott Shane of the Baltimore Sun in February 2002, and how that interaction had purportedly cost Hatfill his job at SAIC in March 2002. Id. at AGD29SJH00014.

In his July statement, Hatfill was careful not to blame DOJ or the FBI for his troubles or for any wrongdoing for the information about him that had made its way into the press. He touted the professionalism of the FBI, noting that “[t]he individual FBI agents with whom [he had come] in contact during this entire process are sons and daughters of which America can be justifiably proud. They are fine men and women doing their best to protect this country.” Id. at AGD29SJH00016. Hatfill’s objection lay with the media, whom he labeled as “irresponsible[,]” for trading in “half-truths, innuendo and speculation, making accusations and slanting real world events . . . to gain viewer recognition, sell newspapers, and increase readership and network ratings.” Id.

As the investigation proceeded, however, Glasberg publicly criticized investigators on the date of the second search of Hatfill’s apartment, August 1, 2002, for obtaining a search warrant rather than accepting the offer Glasberg had allegedly made to cooperate. Ex. 22. So angry was Glasberg with investigators that he wrote a letter, dated the same day as the search, to Assistant United States Attorney Kenneth C. Kohl, denouncing the fact that the search had been conducted “pursuant to a search warrant.” Ex. 23. Glasberg forwarded a copy of this letter to Tom Jackman of the Washington Post, and to the Associated Press, the morning of August 1st. Glasberg, Dep. Tran., Ex. 24, at 265:12 - 266:5; see also Ex. 25 (Glasberg memorandum to file, stating, among other things, that Glasberg showed Jackman Kohl letter on August 1, 2002).

On the day of the search, an FBI spokeswoman at the Bureau’s Washington field office, Debra Weierman, “confirmed that the search was part of the government’s anthrax investigation.” Ex. 25. Weierman added, however, that “she was unable to confirm that [investigators were acting on a search warrant] or to provide any further information about the search.” Id.

The next day – August 2, 2002 – Glasberg faxed the Kohl letter to members of the media. Ex. 26. In the fax transmittal sheet accompanying the Kohl letter, Glasberg also advised the media that: Dr. Hatfill was first contacted by the FBI earlier this year, as part of the Bureau’s survey of several dozen scientists working in fields related to biomedical warfare. He was voluntarily debriefed and polygraphed, and voluntarily agreed to have his home, car and other property subjected to a lengthy and comprehensive search by the FBI. He and his lawyer Tom Carter were told that the results were all favorable and that he was not a suspect in the case. Id. at AGD16SJH03106. Subsequent to the fax transmittal by Glasberg, Weierman confirmed that the search had been conducted pursuant to a search warrant, but only after receiving appropriate authorization from her superiors. Weierman Dep. Tran., Ex. 27, at 93:16 - 94:14.

Hatfill had also accompanied Glasberg for his interview with Jackman the day before to address the “media feeding frenzy.” Ex. 28. Glasberg provided Jackman with the promise of an “[e]xclusive personal statement” from Hatfill and the promise of “[n]o other press contacts pending publication” of the article. Id. Glasberg thus provided Jackman background information about Hatfill, Rosenberg’s statements, and other publications. Ex. 25. Hatfill reportedly complained to the Washington Post in the interview about the media feeding frenzy, and about how his “friends are bombarded” with press inquiries. Ex. 29, at 1. Hatfill also complained about the “[p]hone calls at night. Trespassing. Beating on my door. For the sheer purpose of selling newspapers and television.” Id.

C. Attorney General Ashcroft’s Person of Interest Statements

Following this “media frenzy,” not to mention the two searches of Hatfill’s apartment, former Attorney General John Ashcroft was asked on August 6, 2002 (at an event addressing the subject of missing and exploited children) about Hatfill’s involvement in the investigation. Jane Clayson of CBS News asked General Ashcroft about the searches and whether Hatfill was a “suspect” in the investigation. Ex. 30, at 2. General Ashcroft responded that Hatfill was a “person of interest.” General Ashcroft cautioned, however, that he was “not prepared to say any more at [that] time other than the fact that he is an individual of interest.” Id. At the same media event, Matt Lauer of NBC News also asked General Ashcroft whether Hatfill was a “suspect” in the investigation. Ex. 31. General Ashcroft responded that Hatfill was a “person that – that the FBI’s been interested in.” Id. at 2. General Ashcroft cautioned that he was “not prepared to make a . . . comment about whether a person is officially a . . . suspect or not.” Id.

General Ashcroft made the same comments at a news conference in Newark, New Jersey on August 22, 2002, stating that Hatfill was a “person of interest to the Department of Justice, and we continue the investigation.” Ex. 32, at 1. As in his previous statements, General Ashcroft refused to provide further comment. Id. When asked upon deposition why he referred to Hatfill as a “person of interest” in the anthrax investigation in response to these media inquiries, General Ashcroft testified that he did so in an attempt to correct the record presented by the media that he was a “suspect” in the investigation, which he believed served a necessary law enforcement purpose. Ashcroft Dep. Tran., Ex. 33, at 81: 5-12; 103:18; 108: 9-13; 138: 5-7; 125: 18-21; 134:22 - 136:8. Prior to making these statements, General Ashcroft did not review or otherwise consult any investigative record, id. at 128:14 - 129:12, much less any record pertaining to Hatfill.

General Ashcroft’s initial statements on August 6, 2002 were followed, on August 11, 2002, by the first of Hatfill’s two nationally televised press conferences. Ex. 34. During his press conference, Hatfill lashed out at Rosenberg and other journalists and columnists who he believed wrote a series of “defamatory speculation and innuendo about [him].” Id. at 3. In apparent response to the “person of interest” statements, by contrast, he stated that he did “not object to being considered a ‘subject of interest’ because of [his] knowledge and background in the field of biological warfare.” Id. at 4. This was consistent with Hatfill’s statement to ABC News earlier in 2002 in which he stated that “his background and comments made him a logical subject of the investigation.” Ex. 35. As noted, moreover, Glasberg told the media -- almost a week before the first of General Ashcroft’s statements -- that “Hatfill was first contacted by the FBI [earlier that] year, as part of the Bureau’s survey of several dozen scientists working in fields related to biomedical warfare. He was voluntarily debriefed and polygraphed, and voluntarily agreed to have his home, car and other property subjected to a lengthy and comprehensive search by the FBI.” Ex. 26.

Hatfill’s second press conference was held on August 25, 2002. In the flyer publicizing the conference, Hatfill identified himself to the media -- in bold lettering -- as “the ‘person of interest’ at the center of the federal Government’s [anthrax] investigation.” DA, Exhibit 36.

D. Clawson’s “Sunshine” Policy

Patrick Clawson joined the Hatfill team in early August 2002 as spokesperson and “fielded hundreds of inquiries from members of the press worldwide regarding Dr. Hatfill[.]” Ex. 12, at 13. Clawson believed it best to employ a media strategy that would, in his words, “let it all hang out.” Id. at 50:10. Clawson felt that “permitting maximum sunshine into . . . Hatfill’s existence would do both him and the public the best good.” Clawson Dep. Tran., Ex. 37, at 50:16-18.

“The majority of Clawson’s communications with the press regarding this case have been oral and by telephone and he did not keep a press log or any other regular record of such contacts with the press.” Ex. 12, at 13. Clawson nonetheless admitted upon deposition that he revealed numerous details about Hatfill’s personal and professional background to members of the press (Clawson Dep. Tran., Ex. 37, at 101:9 - 105:21), including Hatfill’s professional expertise (id. at 103:10 - 105:21), use of Cipro (id. at 123:16 - 130:11, 248: 8-13), whereabouts on the days of the attacks (id. at 148:12 - 158:10, 361:15 - 362:3), expertise in working with anthrax (id. at 194:13 - 195:8), former service in the Rhodesian Army (id. at 210:9 - 211:10), and drunk driving arrest (id. at 795: 7-9, 798: 4-6). Clawson also told reporters what had been purportedly removed from Hatfill’s apartment during the two searches of his apartment on June 25, 2002 and August 1, 2002 (including medical books and a jar of bacillus thuringiensis (“BT”)) (id. at 121: 6-12, 131:2 - 131:12, 14:8 - 147:3, 313: 3-10). Clawson also freely relayed to the press that bloodhounds had been presented to Hatfill during the investigation (id. at 200: 15-19); that Hatfill had been the subject of surveillance (id. at 123:12-15, 428: 19-21); that Hatfill had taken polygraphs (id. at 135:16 - 137:17); and that he had submitted to blood tests (id. at 137:18-138:5, 347: 6-10).

In furtherance of Clawson’s “sunshine” policy, Hatfill, Clawson, and Glasberg, together, provided countless on-the-record, on-background (i.e., for use, but not for attribution), and off-the-record (i.e., not for attribution or use) interviews to counter misinformation. Although Hatfill repeatedly claimed upon deposition not to remember what he said during these interviews, he acknowledged in his responses to the Agency Defendants’ interrogatories having such conversations with, in addition to Mr. Jackman, Judith Miller of The New York Times, Jeremy Cherkis of the City Paper, Guy Gugliotta of the Washington Post, David Kestenbaum of National Public Radio, Rick Schmidt of the LA Times, Rob Buchanan of NBC Dateline, Jim Popkin of NBC News, Dee Ann David and Nick Horrock of UPI, Gary Matsumato of Fox TV, Bill Gertz of the Washington Times, and David Tell of the Weekly Standard. Ex. 12, at 3-4. With respect to the Matsumato interview, Glasberg warned Hatfill before the interview that he “should not be quoted, nor should Matsumato say or imply that he spoke with him.” Ex. 38, at 1. Glasberg warned Hatfill that “Matsumato must be willing to go to jail rather than reveal word one of anything [he] says on ‘deep background.’” Id.

All of these disclosures became too much even for Glasberg, who attempted to put a stop to them. In August, when Jackman aired his exclusive interview with Glasberg and Hatfill, Glasberg heralded the success of his public relations strategy noting that “Rosenberg, Shane and Kristof are, [each] of them, in varying stages of sulking, licking their wounds, reacting defensively and changing their tune.” Ex. 39. Slowly Glasberg advised both Hatfill and Glasberg to observe “the rule of COMPLETE SILENCE regarding anything and everything about the case[.]” Ex. 40 (emphasis in original). Ultimately, in September 2002, Glasberg ordered Clawson to stand down, noting “[w]hat you know, you know, and you have put virtually all of that into the public record. Fine. That is where we are, and for good or ill we can and will deal with it. But we must put a full stop to any further conveyance of substantive data about ANYTHING from Steve to anyone [but his attorneys].” Ex. 41 (emphasis in original). To no avail. On October 5, 2002, Hatfill and Clawson appeared together at an Accuracy in Media Conference. Hatfill was asked about the reaction of bloodhounds, and stated, I’m not supposed to answer things against . . . but let me tell you something. They brought this good-looking dog in. I mean, this was the best-fed dog I have seen in a long time. They brought him in and he walked around the room. By the way, I could have left at anytime but I volunteered while they were raiding my apartment the second time, I volunteered to talk with them. The dog came around and I petted him. And the dog walked out. So animals like me (laughter). Ex. 42, at 2.

Disclosures from the Hatfill camp to the media continued. For example, between late 2002 and May 8, 2003, Hatfill’s current attorney, Tom Connolly, and CBS News reporter James Stewart had multiple telephone conversations and two lunch meetings. Ex. 43. According to Stewart, Connolly told Stewart that the investigation was focusing on Hatfill, and detailed at great length the FBI’s surveillance of Hatfill. In virtually every one of these conversations, Connolly encouraged Stewart to report on these subjects. Id. at 96.

E. Louisiana State University’s Decision To Terminate Hatfill

At the time of the second search of his apartment in August 2002, Hatfill was working as a contract employee at the Louisiana State University (“LSU”) on a program to train first responders in the event of a biological attack. This program was funded by the Department of Justice’s Office of Justice Programs (“OJP”) as part of a cooperative agreement. Ex. 44. Under the terms of the cooperative agreement, OJP “maintain[ed] managerial oversight and control” of the program. Id. at 2. Following the second search of Hatfill’s apartment on August 1, 2002, Timothy Beres, Acting Director of OJP’s Office of Domestic Preparedness, directed that LSU “cease and desist from utilizing the subject-matter expert and course instructor duties of Steven J. Hatfill on all Department of Justice funded programs.” Ex. 45. LSU, meanwhile, had independently hired Hatfill to serve as Associate Director of its Academy of Counter-Terrorist Education. Following the second search, LSU placed Hatfill on administrative leave. Ex. 46. LSU then requested a background check of Hatfill. Ex. 47. During the course of that investigation, the University became concerned that Hatfill had forged a diploma for a Ph.D that he claimed to have received from Rhodes University in South Africa. Hatfill explained to Stephen L. Guillott, Jr., who was the Director of the Academy of Counter-Terrorist Education at LSU, that “[h]e assumed the degree had, in fact been awarded since neither his [thesis advisor] nor Rhodes University advised him to the contrary.” Ex. 48. LSU’s Chancellor, Mark A. Emmert, made “an internal decision to terminate [LSU’s] relationship with Dr. Hatfill quite independent of [the DOJ e-mail] communication.” Ex. 51.

Hatfill has now testified that in fact he created a fraudulent diploma with the assistance of someone he met in a bar who boasted that he could make a fraudulent diploma. Hatfill Dep. Tran., Ex. 49 at 19:20 - 20:12. Glasberg, moreover, has stated under oath that Hatfill’s earlier attempted explanation was untrue. Glasberg, Dep. Tran., Ex. 21, at 314:10 - 317:2. In a nationally televised 60 Minutes episode that aired in March 2007, Connolly confirmed that Hatfill forged the diploma for the Ph.D from Rhodes University. Ex. 50, at 3.

F. Hatfill’s Amended Complaint

Hatfill claims lost wages and other emotional damages resulting from General Ashcroft’s “person of interest” statements and other for-attribution statements by DOJ and FBI officials. He also seeks to recover for certain other alleged “leaks” by DOJ and FBI officials. Hatfill additionally asserts that the defendants violated the Act by purportedly failing to (1) maintain an accurate accounting of such disclosures, which he asserts is required by section 552a(c) of the Act; (2) establish appropriate safeguards to insure the security and confidentiality of the records that were purportedly disclosed, which he asserts is required by section 552a(e)(10); (3) correct information that was disseminated about him that was inaccurate or incomplete, which he asserts is required by section 552a(e)(5); and (4) establish adequate rules of conduct, procedures, and penalties for noncompliance, or to train employees in the requirements of the Act, which he asserts is required by section 552a(e)(9). Defendants are entitled to summary judgment.”


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Breaking News; Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: amerithrax; anthrax; anthraxattacks; bioterrorism; doj; domesticterrorism; fbi; hatfill; islamothrax; kristoff; nicholaskristoff; trialbymedia; wmd
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To: EdLake
BOGUS information is information that the attack anthrax was COATED -- specifically COATED with silica. That is simply NOT true. It is false. It is nonsense. It is bogus. It is crap.

http://www.geocities.com/Ignatius_Ding_2000/Anthrax_Info/WP040902.htm

Whoever concocted the wispy white powder used in last fall's anthrax attacks followed a recipe markedly different from the ones commonly used by scientists in the United States or any other country known to have biological weapons, law enforcement sources said yesterday.

Extensive lab tests of the anthrax powder have revealed new details about how the powder was made, including the identity of a chemical used to coat the trillions of microscopic spores to keep them from clumping together. Sources close to the investigation declined to name the chemical but said its presence was something of a surprise.

The powder's formulation "was not routine," said one law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "Somebody had to have special knowledge and experience to do this," the official said.
641 posted on 05/12/2008 2:46:29 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel
What is Ed going to do with all these turd$ floating in his pool?

It's not MY swimming pool. I'm not a bioweaponeer. I have no special interest in the physics of small particles. I certainly have no interest in converting everyone who believes total nonsense about van der Waals forces and coatings on spores.

My only interest in this subject was to try to determine which group of scientists was right and which group was wrong. I've done that to my satisfaction, so I'll be washing my hands of the subject as soon as I can find the time to put a detailed analysis on my web site.

If people read my analysis -- fine. If they don't. That's up to them. Google and Yahoo! will make sure they can find it - if they bother to look.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

642 posted on 05/12/2008 2:46:56 PM PDT by EdLake
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To: EdLake
BOGUS information is information that the attack anthrax was COATED -- specifically COATED with silica. That is simply NOT true. It is false. It is nonsense. It is bogus. It is crap.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks

A week after Meselson and Alibek had their letter published in the Washington Post requesting that named official sources announce their findings, the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), one of the military labs that analyzed the Daschle anthrax, published an official newsletter stating that silica was a key aerosol enabling component of the Daschle anthrax.[16] The AFIP lab deputy director, Florabel Mullick, said "This [silica] was a key component. Silica prevents the anthrax from aggregating, making it easier to aerosolize. Significantly, we noted the absence of aluminum with the silica. This combination had previously been found in anthrax produced by Iraq."

Quick Ed, clean up all these floating turd$, quick, quick !!! Someone might believe this !!!!
643 posted on 05/12/2008 2:50:40 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: EdLake

Have we FINALLY got rid of you from peddling your crap on this website?


644 posted on 05/12/2008 2:51:58 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: EdLake
I've done that to my satisfaction, so I'll be washing my hands of the subject.....

It's a good idea that you wash your hands after handling as many turd$ as you have.
645 posted on 05/12/2008 2:53:27 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel

Go read a book, Treble, and stop flogging a dead horse.

Excerpts from the 2007 PhD thesis “An Assessment of Exploitable Weaknesses in Universities” (as retyped and numbered by me). (Any typos are mine).

1. “On October 29, 2001 the President stated in the Homeland Security Presidential Directive-2, “The Government shall implement measures to end the abuse of student visas and prohibit certain international students from receiving education and training in sensitive areas. including areas of study with direct application to the development of weapons of mass destruction. The Government shall also prohibit the education of training of foreign nationals who would use such training to harm the United States or its Allies.”

2. On December 1, 1862, Abraham Lincoln said in a message to Congress, “As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew.”

3. “The Biodefense program is centered around the National Center for Biodefense (NCD), located in Discovery Hall on the Prince William campus, headed by Charles Bailey. The program is intended to promote awareness of the national and international security challenges and medical and public health threats posed by biological terrorism and biological weapons proliferation.
***

4. The program is intended to provide students with a background with fundamentals of science and technology of biodefense, threat analysis of biological weapons, and the specialized areas of medical defense, including engineering defense, non-proliferation in biodefense, and counter-terrorism/ law enforcement of biodefense. Students in this program have unique opportunities to participate in cutting-edge and meaningful research while working with the renowned investigators in the life sciences research center.”

5. “The scope of work defined on the NCBD website for cooperative research states that USAMRIID scientists will consult on the design, construction, and operation of specialized laboratory equipment for exposing animals to aerosolized agents. The education partnership “will provide a unique opportunity for students to work on research projects that could not otherwise be available in an educational environment.” GMU does not have any qualified person to determine whether or not this research and laboratory equipment falls within export control regulations.”

6. “The Department of Molecular and Microbiology (MMB) administers NCBD graduate degree programs in bio-defense. MMB also includes the Center for Biomedical Genomics (CBMG) located in Discovery Hall on the Prince William Campus.

***
NCBD and CBMG, including some offices and research areas of the American Type Culture Collection (ATCC), are located in Discovery Hall, making this an attractive building on the Prince William Campus to target for information and technology.”

7. “Recent developments and discoveries in research and cutting edge technologies, including defense related technologies, by American and foreign national students in higher education require new means to control sensitive or potentially threatening information. This dissertation examined whether to and what degree universities are vulnerable to misuse, misapplication, and exploitation of information and technology and if the presence of foreign nationals contributes to this vulnerability.

8. “Yazid Sufaat is suspected of working on the development of biological and chemical weapons, specifically the anthrax program headed by Ayman Zawahiri known as ‘curdled milk.’” In June 2001, Sufaat travelled to Afghanistan and Pakistan to work for the Taliban Medical Brigade and to work with anthrax. Sufaat worked in the Afghan city of Kandahar, also known as ‘Hambali’ the alleged mastermind of the Bali 2002 bombing.

9. “In March 2003, handwritten notes and files on a laptop seized during the captive of al-Qaeda member Khalid Mohammed, include an anthrax production plan using a spray dryer. According to Ross Getman ... Mohammed told authorities that Zacarias Moussaoui inquired about crop dusters, possibly in relation to the anthrax work being done by Sufaat.”

10. “A June 1999 memo said the program should seek cover and talent in education institutions...”

11. “Discovery Hall currently has BSL 1, 2 and 2+ labs in which students work with attenuated and vaccine strains of Fracella tularemia, anthrax and HIV. GMU will eventually have new biological labs featuring a BSL-3 lab which will have anthrax and tularemia.”

12. “[]he Pasteur strain of anthrax is a select agent, not because it is a particularly pathogenic bug on its own, but it contains the genetic elements that can be recombined with other strains to make a pathogenic bug.”

13. “Collaborations include work with U.S. Army Medical Institute Infectious Disease (USAMRIID) and the Army Engineer Research and Development Center - Topographic Engineers Center (ERDC-TEC). Funded projects from state and federal grants and awards to study infectious diseases that result from biological terrorism or arise naturally include: U.S. Department of Energy, U.S. Army Medical Research and Material Command, Commonwealth Health Research Board (Virginia), National Institutes of Health, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

[Elsewhere the author states U.S. Army Engineer Research and Development Center work included detection of biological agents]

14. “GMU currently collaborates with USAMRIID.”

15. “As a student in the biodefense program, the author is aware that students without background checks are permitted to work on grants, specifically Department of Defense, that has been awarded to NCBD under the Department of Molecular and Microbiology at GMU. Students are also permitted to do research separately from work in the lab for their studies. Work and studies are separate, but related by the lab. Thus, student access, research and activities go unchecked and unmonitored. Students have access to critical information and technology.”

16. A principal investigator (PI) may hire a student based on a one on one interview, post doctoral or masters interest, technical abilities, publications, previous work and lab experience, whether student qualifications match the principal interrogators current research, whether there is a space, and if the timing is right. There is no formal screening process or background check that the author is aware of for teaching or research assistantships.

17. “Discovery Hall is composed largely of strains of bio-agents that are avirulent for humans; thus, security for agents is not as stringent.”

18. “It is the access that students have to technology at GMU that can possibly allow them to weaponize them to weaponize the harmful agents once they obtain it.”

19. “Although computers are password protected, anyone can access the computers located throughout the labs. Research results can be recorded on lab computers. Someone wanting to access research results would first have to understand what the numbers meant. Research results are also kept in a lab notebook that is kept in the lab or office. This enables other students to repeat what was already done or to see results.”

20. “It is alarming that a project is not reviewed periodically for export control regulations because the direction of research could deviate or the status of controlled information or technology could change.”

21. “Upon hearing about instances or missing equipment in Discovery Hall, the author contacted campus security who was unaware of instances of missing equipment. Missing equipment should be reported to the equipment liaison. Missing equipment may not be reported to campus security because labs tend to share equipment. Equipment also goes missing because it is not inventoried if it is under $2,000.

22. [An example from October 2006 of equipment that went missing was a rotissery hybridization over belonging to the Center for Biomedical Genoimics]

“This equipment can be used to manufacture biological agents and genetically modified agents, which could potentially be used as biological weapons.”

23. “A DI system is a de-ionized water system, which removes the ions that are found in normal tap water. The assistant director for operations noticed the DI system in Discovery Hall was using the entire 100 gallons in two days, which is an enormous amount of water for the four DI taps in the whole building. According to the assistant director for operations, it is difficult to calculate the reason for that much water since no leak was found. A large amount of water used over a short period of time for unknown reasons could indicate that the research is being conducted covertly.”

24. “The events at GMU demonstrate opportunity to create a clandestine lab, the ability to sell items illegally, or the ability to exploit school equipment for ill intent. It also demonstrates vulnerability to theft, and a lack of technology and control and protection.”

25. “The threat posed by Islamic extremists interacting with students at universities is a concern since college students are impressionable and have the potential to be influenced by radicalism and radical preachers. The radical preacher Ali Al-Timimi is an illustrative example.

26. Ali Al-Timimi earned a doctorate in 2005 in computational biology from GMU. His doctoral dissertation is entitled “Chaos and Complexity in Cancer.” Brought to the author’s attention, was that Al-Timimi had an office in Discovery Hall.”

27. “He was convicted and sentenced to ten federal counts of supporting and encouraging terrorist activities, specifically urging his followers to join the Taliban to fight the U.S. troops and to train with the terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba. He was sentenced to life in prison without parole.”

28. “According to Broadside Newspaper at George Mason University, study groups made up of Muslim students at Mason gathered on a weekly basis to hear lectures by Shaykh Ja’far Idris at Dar Al-Aqam. According to the Broadside, Idris is an internationally known Salafi cleric and a member of the Salafi diplomatic corps, who was forced to leave the United states in 2003 due to pressure from the U.S. Government. Al-Timimi participated in events sponsored by the Mason’s Muslim Students Association.

29. “The ability of the student to misuse, misapply or exploit information and technology learned from conducting biological research using the assets and capabilities available is extremely vulnerable.

30. “The student already has access to the knowledge and understands how to use and misuse biological agents. These students know the potential applications for the information and technology that is used during biological research. The students are able to access the information easily and work with the technology regularly... This information and technology is also extremely sensitive as stated earlier in the study.”

31. “A student with legitimate access to Discovery Hall has easy accessibility to equipment. A student with access to the loading dock could steal equipment on the weekend when campus security is not present in Discovery Hall. A student could also walk out of the entrance with equipment on the weekend without security present.

32. “If it was discovered that a student at GMU used information and technology against the U.S. which was learned and accessed at GMU the consequences would be severe. Such an incident would cause an immediate end to research.”

http://www.anthraxandalqaeda.com


646 posted on 05/12/2008 4:12:40 PM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: TrebleRebel

Dr. Rebel,

So far you’ve quoted experts from DARPA, Lawrence Livermore, Sandia, and GMU’s Center for Biodefense (the Alibek and Patrick supervised thesis by Dr. Ken’s assistant Crockett). Oh, and JAMA, CDC, etc. But that was only after you confused them.

When are you going to stop relying on authority and expertise and start using bold, capital letters with red font like Ed? Trust me, marketing is important. Also use an example from an upcoming movie or recently opened blockbuster movie if you can. For example, go see SPEED RACER and then draw an analogy between single encapsulated spores to a horse and buggy.


647 posted on 05/12/2008 4:20:12 PM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: EdLake

Army, Hopkins to collaborate on biodefense research
By David Dishneau | The Associated Press
5:50 PM EDT, May 12, 2008
ttp://www.baltimoresun.com/news/education/college/bal-biodefense0512,0,7450735.story

The Army and Johns Hopkins University announced a deal today enabling biotechnology graduate students to work with scientists at the military’s premier biological weapons defense laboratory at Fort Detrick in Frederick at the Army’s expense.
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At least two fellowships will be offered yearly, starting this fall, to students with a biodefense concentration within the biotechnology master’s degree program. They will work at USAMRIDD, where scientists study some of the world’s most dangerous pathogens, including anthrax, the Ebola virus and botulinum neurotoxin.
***
The students will most likely work in biosafety level 3 labs and possibly BSL-4 labs, reserved for the most virulent agents

Comment:

Ed, ignore Treble. He just got out of the pool and his towel is wrapped too tight.

Can you link both this and the PhD thesis relating to the vulnerability assessment related to universities?

The thesis addresses biosecurity issues applicable to universities broader than addressed in excerpts I’ve quoted.


648 posted on 05/12/2008 4:39:50 PM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

Let’s consider the GMU PhD thesis in the context of the bigger picture coming into focus.

In a filing unsealed this month, Dr. Ali Al-Timimi’s lawyer wrote: “Al-Timimi “was considered an anthrax weapons suspect.” Dr. Al-Timimi’s counsel summarizes:

“we know Dr. Al-Timimi:

* was interviewed in 1994 by the FBI and Secret Service regarding his ties to the perpetrators of the first World Trade Center bombing;

* was referenced in the August 6, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing (”Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US”) as one of seventy individuals regarding whom the FBI is conducting full field investigations on a national basis;

* was described to his brother by the FBI within days of the 9-11 attacks as an immediate suspect in the Al Qaeda conspiracy;

* was contacted by the FBI only nine days after 9-11 and asked about the attacks and its perpetrators;

* was considered an anthrax weapons suspect;

[redacted - passage presumptively IMO about Amerithrax investigation]

* was described during his trial by FBI agent John Wyman as having “extensive ties” with the “broader al-Qaeda network”;

* was described in the indictment and superseding indictment as being associated with terrorists seeking harm to the United States;

* was a participant in dozens of international overseas calls to individuals known to have been under suspicion of Al-Qaeda ties like Al-Hawali; and

* was associated with the long investigation of the Virginia Jihad Group.

***

The conversation with Al-Hawali on September 19, 2001 was central to the indictment and raised at trial. Al-Timimi called Dr. Hawali after the dinner with Kwon on September 16, 2001 and just two hours before he met with Kwon and Hassan for the last time on September 19, 2001.

“]911 imam] Anwar Al-Aulaqi goes directly to Dr. Al-Timimi’s state of mind and his role in the alleged conspiracy. The 9-11 Report indicates that Special Agent Ammerman interviewed Al-Aulaqi just before or shortly after his October 2002 visit to Dr. Al-Timimi’s home to discuss the attacks and his efforts to reach out to the U.S. government.”

[IANA head] Bassem Khafagi was questioned about Dr. Al-Timimi before 9-11 in Jordan, purportedly at the behest of American intelligence. [redacted ] He was specifically asked about Dr. Al-Timimi’s connection to Bin Laden prior to Dr. Al-Timimi’s arrest. He was later interviewed by the FBI about Dr. Al-Timimi. Clearly, such early investigations go directly to the allegations of Dr. Al-Timimi’s connections to terrorists and Bin Laden — [redacted]”

The letter by Al-Timimi’s counsel attached as an exhibit is equally meaty. An example of an additional detail is that in March 2002, Dr. Al-Timimi spoke with Dr. Al-Hawali (Bin Laden’s sheik who was the subject of OBL’s “Declaration of War”) about assisting Moussaoui in his defense.

The filing and the letter exhibit each copy the daughter of the lead prosecutor in Amerithrax. That prosecutor has pled the Fifth Amendment concerning all the leaks hyping a “POI” of the other Amerithrax squad, Dr. Steve Hatfill.

In an e-mail obtained by FOX News, scientists at Fort Detrick openly discussed how the anthrax powder they were asked to analyze after the attacks was nearly identical to that made by one of their colleagues.

“Then he said he had to look at a lot of samples that the FBI had prepared ... to duplicate the letter material,” “Then the bombshell. He said that the best duplication of the material was the stuff made by [name redacted]. He said that it was almost exactly the same — his knees got shaky and he sputtered, ‘But I told the General we didn’t make spore powder!’”

FOX News reports:

“The FBI has narrowed its focus to “about four” suspects in the 6 1/2-year investigation of the deadly anthrax attacks of 2001, and at least three of those suspects are linked to the Army’s bioweapons research facility at Fort Detrick in Maryland, FOX News has learned.

Among the pool of suspects are three scientists — a former deputy commander, a leading anthrax scientist and a microbiologist — linked to the research facility, known as USAMRIID.”

It was more than a happy coincidence for Ayman Zawahiri and Mohammed Islambouli that an active supporter of the Taliban and supporter of jihad was a US biodefense insider. Microbiologist Al-Timimi worked in the same building as famed Russian bioweapons scientist Ken Alibek and former USAMRIID Deputy Commander and Acting Commander Charles Bailey, who would come to publish a lot of research with the “Ames strain” of anthrax. Al-Timimi was a current associate and former student of Bin Laden’s spiritual advisor, dissident Saudi Sheik al-Hawali. He would speak along with the blind sheik’s son at charity conferences — the blind sheik’s son served on Al Qaeda’s WMD committee. Al-Timimi’s mentor Bilal Philips was known for recruiting members of the military to jihad. The first week after 9/11, FBI agents questioned Ali Al-Timimi, a microbiology graduate student in a program jointly run by George Mason University and the American Type Culture Collection (”ATCC”). Ali had a high security clearance for work for the Navy in he late 1990s and in 1996 for two months had worked for the White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card when he was Secretary of Transportation. As time off from his university studies permitted, Ali was an active speaker with a charity Islamic Assembly of North America.

In April 2008, Dr. Alibek told me that has not seen anybody from the FBI for the last 6 years. He reports that has lectured/consulted for many government officials on these 2001-anthrax “issues” several times years ago. He says he can just assume there were some of them from FBI but that was the extent of his contact. Although he was polygraphed in early 2002 along with many others, Dr. Alibek assures me that he has never been asked to provide with his handwriting. Dr. Alibek last offered his help to them about 4 or 5 years ago — he was thanked and decided to leave the area of biodefense afterwards. Now he is working in the field of pharmaceutical development and spends his time developing and manufacturing cardio and cancer drugs. So Dr. and Dr. B would have been a focus only as victims of a theft of biochemistry information.


649 posted on 05/13/2008 2:38:11 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: TrebleRebel

Here’s the table of contents of a 2007 book, BIOTERRORISM.

CHAPTER 1: BIOTERRORISM - A COMPLEX THREAT
ANDREAS WENGER AND RETO WOLLENMANN
PART 1: UNDERSTANDING THE THREAT - ACTORS AND CAPABILITIES
CHAPTER 2: THE LEGACY OF SECRET STATE PROGRAMS
JEANNE GUILLEMIN
CHAPTER 3: EVOLUTION OF THE CURRENT THREAT
MILTON LEITENBERG
CHAPTER 4: THE IMPACT OF SCIENTIFIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL CHANGE
MALCOLM DANDO
PART 2: ASSESSING THE THREAT - DIFFERING PERCEPTIONS
CHAPTER 5: KNOWLEDGE GAPS AND THREAT ASSESSMENTS
PETER R. LAVOY
CHAPTER 6: WHY DO CONCLUSIONS FROM THE EXPERTS VARY?
MARIE ISABELLE CHEVRIER
PART 3: MANAGING THE THREAT - POLICY OPTIONS
CHAPTER 7: WHEN TO ‘CRY WOLF’, WHAT TO CRY, AND HOW TO CRY IT
ANTHONY H. CORDESMAN
CHAPTER 8: MORE TRANSPARENCY FOR A SECURE BIODEFENSE
IRIS HUNGER
PART 4: CONCLUSION
CHAPTER 9: SECURING SOCIETY AGAINST THE RISK OF BIOTERRORISM
ANDREAS WENGER
SELECTED BIBLIOGRAPHY


650 posted on 05/13/2008 4:41:34 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: TrebleRebel
If you would stop twisting and distorting things for a moment, you might understand something.

All I said was that I won't be going to go on any crusade to correct all the nonsense printed in the media about coatings on the spores in the Daschle anthrax powder.

That doesn't mean I'm going to stop discussing the anthrax attacks of 2001 here or anywhere else.

It means that when you make your next screwball mistake about science, I'll still be here to point it out to you.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

651 posted on 05/13/2008 7:23:08 AM PDT by EdLake
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To: Battle Axe; MizSterious

I don’t have time to read this now, but pinging you BA, in case you didn’t see this.

Also, thought you’d find it interesting Miz Sterious.


652 posted on 05/13/2008 7:29:10 AM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: EdLake; TrebleRebel

See TrebleRebel, marketing is everything. Ed has brilliantly added a graphic that serves to remind us of a bowling ball in support of his theory. You really do, though, need to go read a book instead of belaboring what is an unsettled difference of views among scientists not in a position to know. I’m finding that there is much to learn from many people — notwithstanding that their contribution comes from a wildly different point of view or focus.

Professor Barry Kellman in his 2007 book BIOVIOLENCE provides a summary of the issues raised by the PhD excerpts above:

“The story of Ali Al-Timimi is illustrative. American-born, he received religious education in Saudi Araba and was active in the Islamic Assembly of North America (IANA). Known as a spiritual leader among radical islamists, he lectured at the Center for Islamic Information and Education in Falls Church. By Spring 2002, as a computational biology doctoral student at George Mason University, he worked in a program designed to coordinate bioresearch at several universities. He was discovered by the FBI, convicted on charges of incitement to wage war against the United States, and sentenced to life in prison in 2005.”

He cites Vanguards of Conquest: The Sheik and the Bioweaponeers in support. [http://www.anthraxandalqaeda.com]


653 posted on 05/13/2008 7:34:14 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: TrebleRebel

One of the most cautious, well-regarded and oft-quoted analysts on this subject is Milton Leitenberg.

He wrote the chapter on evolving threats in Wenger and Wollenmann’s BIOTERRORISM: CONFRONTING A COMPLEX THREAT (2007).

—”When we move to the Al-Qaida group in Afghanistan, the picture rapidly becomes much more serious, and all the preceding semifarcical events can be seen as inconsequential trivia. The first significant and meaningful information on what Al-Qaida may at some point have hoped to achieve in the area of bioweapons appeared on a single page in the journal SCIENCE in mid-December 2003, and then in declassified documents that were obtained in the last week of March 2004.
Appended to the single page in SCIENCE via the internet address was a list of thirty-two items: eleven books and twenty-one professional journal papers nearly all dating from the 1950s and 1960s dealing with pathogens or bioweapons.”
***
“They were found in Al Qaida training camp near Kandahar, Afghanistan, in December 2001. Half of the books dealt with historic or general aspects of bioweapons and would be of little practical use in an effort to produce bioweapons agents. However, at least some of the journal papers and the remaining half of the books might have been useful in such an effort. They were found only a few kilometers from the site near the Kandahar airport that confirmed the rudimentary equipment also procured by Al-Qaida.”

—Most important of all, the documents indicated that “al-Qaida’s BW initiative included recruitment of individuals with PhD-level expertise who supported planning and acquisition efforts by their familiarity with the scientific community.”

[He notes that the most recent conferences known to have been attended by the scientist writing the 1999 anthrax planning correspondence to Zawahiri were in July and September 1999]

—”If it should turn out, as is currently assumed, that the Amerithrax perpetrator came from within the US government’s own biodefense program, with access to strains, laboratories, people and knowledge, then all previous conceptions about the significance of the events would be substantially altered.

***
—Al-Qaeda has actively recruited educated college graduates and ... specifically sought individuals with particular knowledge and training. ... Such recruiting patterns do not automatically translate into either an interest or capability in bioweapons, but they would be a key advantage should the interests of such a group turn in that direction, as Al-Zawahiri’s [1999] memorandum quoted above suggests they may.”

—”Unfortunately, ten years of widely broadcast public discussion have provided such groups, at least on a general level, with suggestions as to what paths to follow.”


654 posted on 05/13/2008 8:06:46 AM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: EdLake

Instead of correcting my scewball science mistakes here Ed, why don’t you publish your theories in a peer-reviewed science journal?
And, you never know, some day in the future some scientist might be willing to tell you that van der Waals forces don’t make anthrax spores adhere - and he might even be willing to let you use his name on your website. If, that is, he wants to end his career.


655 posted on 05/13/2008 10:34:57 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel
Instead of correcting my scewball science mistakes here Ed, why don’t you publish your theories in a peer-reviewed science journal?

I'd rather correct your screwball mistakes here.

Besides, I don't really have any "peers." :-)

When I get my detailed analysis of spore interaction onto my web page, I'll be asking every scientist I encounter to comment on it. You, too. My web site may not be "a peer-reviewed science journal," but, as we've seen, there is no end to the scientific nonsense that gets "peer reviewed" and printed in scientific journals. It appears to be a I'll-review-yours-if-you review-mine process where criticizing a report is not polite. Instead, criticism is done in letters to the editor and on the Internet AFTER the report is printed.

On my web site I welcome criticism, and I specifically request that people write me if they can PROVE that something I've written is wrong. When they do, I correct my web site.

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

656 posted on 05/13/2008 10:56:32 AM PDT by EdLake
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To: EdLake

The letter to the editor was the standard way scientists discuss their work. It was pointed out that a statement was made that was unsupported and that it should be followed up with data. It was not followed up with the data - hence the statement no longer enjoys peer-reviewed status.
If Beecher had provided the data then the statement would be accepted. I wonder why Beecher didn’t provide the data? But I’m sure you don’t wonder why.


657 posted on 05/13/2008 11:26:42 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel

TrebleRebel,

Or the offering from Harvard University Press from September 2006 is “Anthrax: Bioterror as Fact and Fantasy” by French history professor Philipp Sarasin (Translated into English).

That book quotes a June 2005 interview of Dr. Alibek in a Swiss (German language) weekly news magazine, Neue Zurcher Zeitung, in which he addresses the anthrax mailings:

A. “...What if I told you Swiss scientists are paid by Al Qaeda? You could believe it or not. It has become somewhat fashionable to disparage Russian scientists. Americans, Iraqis, or whoever could just as well be involved with Al Qaeda. Why doesn’t anyone speculate about that?”

Q. “But could one of your students build a biological weapon in the garage?”

A. “Let me reply philosophically: Two hundred years ago, it was unthinkable to believe that people would be using mobile telephones, wasn’t it? Everything changes. Our knowledge grows, and technology develops incredibly quickly. These days even high-school kids can breed recombinant microbial strains. I am not saying that a student is in a position to build a biological weapon all by himself. But the knowledge needed to do it is certainly there.”


658 posted on 05/13/2008 1:24:41 PM PDT by ZACKandPOOK
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To: ZACKandPOOK

My kids are making a thermonuclear device as a school project. Got the plans off the internet.


659 posted on 05/13/2008 1:55:01 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel
I wonder why Beecher didn’t provide the data? But I’m sure you don’t wonder why.

I discussed the article with Dr. Beecher. I KNOW why he hasn't responded to the criticism. So, there's no need for me to wonder.

As to why he didn't provide support for statements about things that any microbiologist should know, is it really necessary to include an explanation of elementary microbiology in a paper about ways of detecting anthrax in mail bags?

Ed at www.anthraxinvestigation.com

660 posted on 05/13/2008 3:03:02 PM PDT by EdLake
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