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Barack Obama Forms Catholic Advisory Council to Make Pro-Life Inroads
LifeNews.com ^ | April 11, 2008 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 04/12/2008 6:13:13 AM PDT by rhema

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To: rhema

“but those who take the Church’s teachings seriously”

the key phrase. I wonder what the ratio is between those catholics who pay attention, and to those who don’t.


41 posted on 04/12/2008 7:30:46 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: weegee

thanks for the warning.
My 1 yr. old has taken to moving chairs so he can climb to places he doesn’t belong and get himself into alot of trouble.

I’ve been referring to him as the “chimp”


42 posted on 04/12/2008 7:36:27 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: weegee

“The REAL returns started to come in and they had to ignore the talking points they’d received from the DNC offices.”

Didn’t they also report early-in-the-day exit polling as decisive proof of democrat victory as well?

Didn’t bother to wait for working folks to finish their work day before they voted.


43 posted on 04/12/2008 7:40:57 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: DieHard the Hunter
got some bad news for you. They are that stupid.....
CINOS have ruined the Catholic church. They pick and choose what part of the faith they like and disregard the rest.
44 posted on 04/12/2008 7:51:38 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Please dont drag your filth into my swamp..................)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Yes.

To be fair—not any ACTUAL pro-life Catholics. Just the millions who have always voted for pro-abortion Democrats.


45 posted on 04/12/2008 7:55:00 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: rhema

He can procure some prolife Catholic votes because a lot of voters do not know that he backs abortions in all circumstances. It’s just a lack of being informed by the hapless Catholics (and Protestants too).


46 posted on 04/12/2008 8:55:12 AM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Scotswife
I wonder what the ratio is between those catholics who pay attention, and to those who don’t.

Sadly, speaking as a Catholic, I would say it's about 50/50. That's speaking off the top of my head. The habit of voting democrat is almost in their genes. It comes from a mixture of feeling like outsiders and feeling "ethnically loyal." An old Hungarian fellow who fled from Hungary in '56 and has lived in the U.S. since once told me that he tried to talk to some of the oldsters at his parish about pro-life candidates and Church teachings, and one of them said, "I've voted democrat all my life, so don't go confusing me with facts!" It was meant to be a little tongue and cheek, but there is a lot of truth to it.

I am praying that Pope Benedict's visit will have some effect. I'm praying that he will say something like, "Yes, Catholics really are morally obligated to find out the facts and support pro-life candidates. There are no exceptions when it comes to abortion."

The good news is, the really committed Catholics--those who practice their faith seriously--are likely to vote, and vote heavily for pro-life candidates. That almost always means republicans.

In any case, pro-life Catholics already know where Obama stands on these issues. He doesn't have the proverbial "snow-ball's chance" with them. In fact, the notion of reaching out to voters with whom he has ABSOLUTELY NO COMMON GROUND on these issues is either delusional or a piece of effrontery.

If he wants to waste his time and money on trying to persuade them on non-negotiables, let him. The naivete and sillyness of this effort is breathtaking. The man is in way over his head.

Obama's had a tough week. He's showing that he's as tin-eared as Hillary. I wonder how long it will take Hillary to fumble away her advantages again? It's like watching a football game where neither side really wants to win.

47 posted on 04/12/2008 8:59:19 AM PDT by ishmac
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"They want Catholics and evangelicals to know that while Obama may be pro-choice, the pro-life point of view is not going to be so easily discounted."

?
What is that supposed to mean?

Catholics are forbidden to support abortion or pro-choice policies so the Obamists can go jump in a lake.

48 posted on 04/12/2008 9:14:01 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: rhema

This, coming from the POS who’s in favor of infanticide?

If I said what I really want to say, I’d be banned.


49 posted on 04/12/2008 9:18:06 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Eliot Spitzer: Living proof that the bigger they think they are, the harder they fall.)
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What is that supposed to mean? Catholics are forbidden to support abortion or pro-choice policies so the Obamists can go jump in a lake.

Nothing, really. It's so semantically nuanced and neutered that it promises nothing, and Obama will deliver exactly that: nothing.

50 posted on 04/12/2008 9:51:16 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: ishmac
In any case, pro-life Catholics already know where Obama stands on these issues. He doesn't have the proverbial "snow-ball's chance" with them. In fact, the notion of reaching out to voters with whom he has ABSOLUTELY NO COMMON GROUND on these issues is either delusional or a piece of effrontery.

I vote for the pairing of the adjective and the noun: delusional effrontery.

51 posted on 04/12/2008 9:54:36 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema

There is NO way that any PRACTICING Catholic can support Senator Obama for president.


52 posted on 04/12/2008 10:39:59 AM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: rhema

The sad part is that he got two allegedly pro-life Catholic congresmen to go aloing with this charade. Even sadder is that the Bishops dont step in and admonish these two.


53 posted on 04/12/2008 10:40:01 AM PDT by rwlawrence
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To: rhema
Obama is so feckless, he thinks he can unite anyone. Maybe that's why he thinks he can just sit down with Ahmanutjob, HAMAS, Hezbollah, etc and just talk things out. He's even more naive than Carter.

Some say it would be better for him to win because he'll be ineffective. I don't know. There's an old saying that goes, "More evil comes into the world throught stupidity than malign intent." I don't know who would be more inept: Hillary or Obama.

54 posted on 04/12/2008 2:08:30 PM PDT by ishmac
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Catholics are forbidden to support abortion or pro-choice policies so the Obamists can go jump in a lake.

Sadly, I see a lot of Obama and Hillary bumper stickers in the parking lot at my wife's parish. Many local Catholics I have talked to say "Well, he CARES about the Poor so I can over look his pro choice stand." Every once in a while I ask who is more poor than an unborn child.

55 posted on 04/13/2008 6:02:41 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ishmac
The Pope is on very dangerous ground if he would say something like that. For one thing, the local bishops would go nuts. Really nuts. For another, you would have Nancy Pelosi and crew calling for the removal of the tax exempt status of any parish who publicly preached that.

Still, it would be great if it happened.

56 posted on 04/13/2008 6:05:45 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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