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USGS ^ | 04/10/2008 | USGS

Posted on 04/10/2008 11:30:14 AM PDT by reluctantwarrior

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To: Smokin' Joe

I have a question about this estimate. All the previous talk about 100 billion barrels of oil didn’t address what part of that was recoverable whereas this report specifically addresses that. So, what percentage did the USGS use in determining how much oil could be recovered? If it was 10% or so then there would be approx 43 billion barrels of oil there. Am I wrong in looking at it this way? Nothing was said in the report about how they arrived at their numbers.


81 posted on 04/11/2008 3:28:09 AM PDT by saganite
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To: saganite
So, what percentage did the USGS use in determining how much oil could be recovered?

I do not know.

I am also under the impression that the figure they gave was for undiscovered reserves (and an estimate), so at that point, the calculations they used elude me.

82 posted on 04/11/2008 4:49:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: reluctantwarrior

Completed well costs are closer to $7,000,000 right now. They should eventually come down to something around $5,000,000. The completion costs are nearly as much as the drilling costs because of the expensive frac jobs that the wells require to be able to produce.


83 posted on 04/11/2008 10:41:10 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: stockpirate
In one recent article the total for oil in that area will reach 250-500 Billion barrels of oil.

Those numbers are the oil-in-place. The recovery factor should be about 10%.

84 posted on 04/11/2008 10:42:32 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
The oil is NOT found in shale’s. It is found mostly in Sandstone and Limestone between two shale layers.

It is actually a sandy dolomite.

85 posted on 04/11/2008 10:44:59 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Red Badger
This isn’t shale oil is it?............

No, there are two shales that are around 20' thick that are the source for the oil. Sandwiched between them is a sandy dolomite bed (also around 20' thick) that has all of the oil and gas in it. It is too thin and impermeable to make a commerical vertical well so horizontal wells are "sharpshooted" between the two shales to target the reservoir. Well costs currently are at $7,000,000.

86 posted on 04/11/2008 10:48:57 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector

Drilling thru the cheese to get to the ham
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87 posted on 04/11/2008 10:50:07 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger
Drilling thru the cheese to get to the ham.

Something like that. The zone is productive over a large area where it can be considered marginally commercial. But what makes it profitable is finding the "sweet spots" where the rock has been fractured to increase in recovery.

88 posted on 04/11/2008 10:55:39 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector
...finding the "sweet spots" where the rock has been fractured to increase in recovery.

Make your own! Drill vertically down to the middle of the layer, place explosive charges in the hole bottom, yell "Fire in the hole!" and run like hell!..............

89 posted on 04/11/2008 10:59:57 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger
finding the "sweet spots" where the rock has been fractured to increase in recovery.

Make your own! Drill vertically down to the middle of the layer, place explosive charges in the hole bottom, yell "Fire in the hole!" and run like hell!..............

That is essentially what the frac job does when they complete the well. In the old days, they used nitroglycerin but better technology has evolved.

90 posted on 04/11/2008 11:11:13 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector

One word: MOAB....................


91 posted on 04/11/2008 11:13:33 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: crusty old prospector

Isn’t extremely high pressure mud pumping the current method?


92 posted on 04/11/2008 11:15:51 AM PDT by Uriah_lost (This space reserved for a decent candidate,,,lemme know when we get one.)
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To: Uriah_lost

No, there are two shales that are around 20’ thick that are the source for the oil. Sandwiched between them is a sandy dolomite bed (also around 20’ thick) that has all of the oil and gas in it. It is too thin and impermeable to make a commerical vertical well so horizontal wells are “sharpshooted” between the two shales to target the reservoir. To make the zone more permeable, the well is “fraced” with a mixture of gel and sand to prop the induced fractures open. Trucks at the surface pump into the well to cause these fractures. Well costs currently are at $7,000,000.


93 posted on 04/11/2008 11:20:28 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector

Thats what I meant by high pressure “mud” pumping but I’m not completely sure about the terminology. I was just suggesting that high explosives were not the current state of the art.


94 posted on 04/11/2008 11:31:21 AM PDT by Uriah_lost (This space reserved for a decent candidate,,,lemme know when we get one.)
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To: Uriah_lost

Mud is used in the drilling operation. When they frac the well, they use either “slick water” or gel. If you think about trying to carry sand in water, it would fall to the bottom so the gel makes the fluid viscous to be able to carry the sand into the fractures created by pumping into the borehole. When they stop pumping, the fracture tries to close but the sand grains keep it open.


95 posted on 04/11/2008 11:34:59 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: crusty old prospector

Okay, I guess I had gotten the idea that “mud” was more of a generic term for thick-ish liquids used in various stages of the process. Got it now. Thanks


96 posted on 04/11/2008 11:38:14 AM PDT by Uriah_lost (This space reserved for a decent candidate,,,lemme know when we get one.)
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To: crusty old prospector

thanks I was cross posting some info from another site discussing general costs of horizontal drilling

the oildrum site posted yesterday


97 posted on 04/11/2008 12:24:29 PM PDT by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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