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Petraeus' 'ribbon creep'
LA Times ^ | April 9, 2008 | Matthew DeBord

Posted on 04/10/2008 8:52:30 AM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich

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To: rednesss

cool, thanks


41 posted on 04/10/2008 9:48:20 AM PDT by Understated
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To: rednesss
That is cool. Thanks for posting. My stepson just got the CAB.

They should somehow figure out a way to consolidate all that into some thing that just says I'm a bad ass mfing General.

Right now it looks like he has too much flair. ;-)


42 posted on 04/10/2008 9:53:07 AM PDT by CJ Wolf (Let Freedom Ping List - Ron Paul - Ron Paul - Ron Paul - Join it.)
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To: river rat

A friend of mines father a Air Force Lifer got shipped to Viet Nam because every Lifer had to go to Viet Nam. He spent his tour in charge of a detail, as a Senior Master Master Sargent, burning poop. There was nothing for him to do in his MOS, super secret development lab stuff.


43 posted on 04/10/2008 10:10:28 AM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich

The practice of high ranking military officers wearing a lot of medals goes back a long way. During the Battle of Trafalgar (in 1805), Admiral Lord Nelson was killed by a French sniper who had been told to shoot the British officer wearing the most medals.


44 posted on 04/10/2008 10:12:54 AM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: rednesss
Damn, that is pretty thin on the ground with respect to any combat action. Legion of Merit? First time I've seen one of those on a CO.

Still though, he's doing alright and he deserves a lot better respect from a bunch of civilian journalist pukes.

45 posted on 04/10/2008 10:14:03 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Party ahead of principles; eventually you'll be selling out anything to anyone for the right price.)
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To: 3niner
I don't see a lot of getting shot at medals.
46 posted on 04/10/2008 10:16:39 AM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

apparently the LA version of (Ms.) Mark Morford of SF


47 posted on 04/10/2008 10:22:20 AM PDT by wayne_b24 (every day in the Light is a good day ... John 8:12 & 14:6; Psalm 119:105; Joshua 24:15)
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To: Little Bill

OTOH, I see a strategy over there that’s working.


48 posted on 04/10/2008 10:29:40 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich

Hmmmm

Officers and Enlisted are encouraged to wear all of their authorized ribbons on dress uniforms, according to what I am reading in AR 670-1.

Not being Army (I was AF) I don’t know if they are required wear, but in the USAF all awards were REQUIRED wear when I got out of the service in 2002.

So whomever wrote that article is an Idiot.


49 posted on 04/10/2008 10:37:51 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I agree, some of the best German Commanders in WW2 were Staff Pogies, sometimes you need Brains and sometimes you need Balls, in this case we need Brains.


50 posted on 04/10/2008 10:38:18 AM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich

I would like to introduce the idiot that wrote this crap the business end of my USAF Instructor Badge.


51 posted on 04/10/2008 10:40:02 AM PDT by alarm rider ("Difficile est saturam non scibere" -- it's difficult not to write satire.)
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To: rednesss

so when did CIB become the CAB?


52 posted on 04/10/2008 10:43:06 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Little Bill

The military hands out a lot of medals and ribbons, in leiu of pay. General Petraeus did earn a Bronze Star, however. Nobody earns a lot of those kinds of medals, because they couldn’t survive many of the kinds of experiences required to earn them.


53 posted on 04/10/2008 10:46:02 AM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: 3niner
Does he have the V device, can't tell from the Pic. I had a problem, Many Years Ago, when I was in, with Medal inflation.

It was endemic among the O's and really pissed me off.

54 posted on 04/10/2008 10:56:30 AM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

I just checked with some actual, real-life enlisted ARMY folks. I was told “Nope, ribbons are REQUIRED” on the dress uniform when the JACKET is worn”. More than one told me that so either I missed something in the regs or I misread something there.


55 posted on 04/10/2008 11:12:40 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: CJ Wolf
"Right now it looks like he has too much flair. ;-)"

Joanna: You know what, Stan, if you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair, like your pretty boy over there, Brian, why don't you just make the minimum 37 pieces of flair?

Stan, Chotchkie's Manager: Well, I thought I remembered you saying that you wanted to express yourself.

Joanna: Yeah. You know what, yeah, I do. I do want to express myself, okay. And I don't need 37 pieces of flair to do it. [flips off Stan]


56 posted on 04/10/2008 11:15:20 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: 3niner
"The military hands out a lot of medals and ribbons, in leiu of pay."


57 posted on 04/10/2008 11:18:30 AM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: ASOC
Face it, this General got his start in a peace-time Army and first saw combat in GWII. The guy is bright - but he is *no* General Norman Schwarzkopf.....

Stop whining, sister. Nothing succeeds like success ... and Petraeus is succeeding.

58 posted on 04/10/2008 11:18:56 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: brownsfan

It isn’t just the Army. Saw a midshipman at BWI airport late last summer. The young man was probably just back from his Youngster Cruise (ie. a returning sophmore coming back from his first trip with the fleet). He was sporting 2 complete rows of ribbons on his Class A whites. I recall during the late 70’s that Firsties had a SINGLE ribbon & that was the Vietnam Service ribbon given to anybody who served (up until about 1975 IIRC). So ribbon inflation is not just an Army-thing.


59 posted on 04/10/2008 11:33:14 AM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: brownsfan

...I might add that the midshipman appeared to be too young to have been “prior enlisted”.


60 posted on 04/10/2008 11:35:23 AM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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