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ATF Agents Burst Into Wrong House (again...)
NBC6 ^ | 04-10-08 | staff

Posted on 04/10/2008 8:06:37 AM PDT by woollyone

MIAMI -- Officers from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives barged into a South Florida home Wednesday only to discover they had the wrong address.

The ATF agents were supposed to conduct a raid at a home in the 2600 block of Northwest 49th Terrace in northwest Miami-Dade County, but they were off by one block. They entered a house on Northwest 49th Street instead.

A mother and her 2-year-old boy were among the innocent people inside the home when the agents came in


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batfe; beserkcop; bootthebatfe; donutwatch; jackbootedthugs; jbt; leo; noknock; police; policestate; swat
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To: woollyone
Incidences like this one no longer surprise me.

That alone is a statement of how screwed up things have become.

61 posted on 04/10/2008 9:00:41 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

That’s heresy to the authoritarian statists here who always defend cops....no matter what they do.


62 posted on 04/10/2008 9:01:16 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: ModelBreaker
"Do you send officers into unknown situations without scary looking flak jackets and helmets? Do you give bad guys 30 seconds warning to pick up their guns? Do you politely request permission to enter?"

Yes to all of the above. Otherwise these guys shouldn't be in the law-enforcement business, because NOT doing those things is un-Constitutional.

63 posted on 04/10/2008 9:01:51 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

The ATF are to cops what mall security guards are too the FBI


64 posted on 04/10/2008 9:02:37 AM PDT by Jim Verdolini
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To: woollyone
Yep real strange!

A first day reporter would have asked more about this.

If the canisters are in the garbage, wouldn't a curious person/reporter/camera guy want to see them?

Kicking a live gas grenade is way beyond stupid, yet no mention of any gas grenades actually being used? So, where would empties come from?

If they had been used, wouldn't the woman & BABY need medical attention? Who passes up on video of an innocent woman & her baby being loaded into an ambulance? Every camera phone in the ‘hood would have had this one.

Finally, unless GWB has bombed the ghettos of Miami, why aren't the local liberal fish wrappers all over this “OUTRAGEOUS!” mistake. Remember little Ilian Gonzalez? Miami-ans do! Gassing a baby would fill every news channel on cable. (It's a real slooow news day).

Very Fishy!

65 posted on 04/10/2008 9:04:29 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: woollyone; All
ATTENTION LEO:

We the people want you to fix her door back, clean up her house, get your spent tear gas canisters and other trash out of her home and have the cost of counseling for the victims taken out of the base pay of the participants of this raid.

And that's just getting into the zone of 'making your victims whole'.

66 posted on 04/10/2008 9:05:15 AM PDT by Lester Moore (This is the most regulated, monitored and controlled, and least free society in history.)
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To: ModelBreaker

They might try reading the street sign twice, just to make sure they’re at least on the right street.


67 posted on 04/10/2008 9:06:27 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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Where’s Henry Bowman when we need him?


68 posted on 04/10/2008 9:10:12 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: E Rocc

True.


69 posted on 04/10/2008 9:11:33 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: ModelBreaker

The ONLY time a “no-knock” raid is justified is if there are hostages involved.

The entire “preventing destruction of evidence” canard is moot, since every sewage system has manholes where a screen or bucket can catch everything flushed down the crapper.

If the police are too inept and/or lazy to ensure they are at the correct address, they should be held criminally liable for their every ILLEGAL action. A “raid” on an incorrect address is a home invasion by thugs, whether they wear a uniform or “gangsta” clothing.


70 posted on 04/10/2008 9:12:18 AM PDT by Don W ( Did you hear about the guy whose whole left side was cut off? . . . He's all right now...)
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To: RandallFlagg

There will be no “Henry Bowmen”, no “hog feeding time”, no “Claire Wolfe” time. Just more American Idol.


71 posted on 04/10/2008 9:14:34 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel

How about just arresting the suspects when they are out on the street where you can simply walk up behind them and grab them.


72 posted on 04/10/2008 9:16:33 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: ModelBreaker
But how do you avoid this?

Very easily.
If this happens, all of those responsible are fired and charged with crimes.
Give some incentive to future agents to try harder for accuracy.
73 posted on 04/10/2008 9:17:57 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: Joe Brower
"Me no worry addressy. That DA job.

Me stomp kitty. That my job."


74 posted on 04/10/2008 9:19:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: SeaHawkFan
That would require actual police work and would not justify all the cool new toyz the adrenaline junkies SWAT team gets to play with.
75 posted on 04/10/2008 9:19:45 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: woollyone
A mother and her 2-year-old boy were among the innocent people inside the home when the agents came in

Says who? I'm sure they could find something to charge them with. </sarcasm>

76 posted on 04/10/2008 9:25:31 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (I wrote the original “That’s The Ticket” Skit for SNL.)
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To: em2vn

Or a journalist.Any damn fool can be a journalist these days...


77 posted on 04/10/2008 9:25:40 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: woollyone
A mother and her 2-year-old boy were among the innocent people inside the home when the agents came in

Good thing the victims didn't have a cell phone in their hands that coulda been mistaken for a gun. Hell, what if this mother had let her child play with toy guns?

78 posted on 04/10/2008 9:26:15 AM PDT by umgud
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To: ModelBreaker
The problem is the ongoing decline and fall of Western Civilization.

I agree that society is worse than a couple of generations ago.

My brother in law is a cop. In today's world, every encounter with a citizen is scary.

I thank your Brother-in-law for his service, but I disagree that every encounter with a citizen should be "scary." Proper caution should be taken for every encounter, but if he's walking around scared in everyu encounter, he's in the wrong job.

It's hard to stay alive and not be uber-cautious because the country is full of psychopaths with RPG's.

I think I now understand why he is scared with every citizen encounter. He's operating off of some very bad information.

If you're a cop, you err on the side of overwhelming force and pray you don't make mistakes.

If he is operating with this mindset, lawsuits and likely criminal charges are in his future. And you can count him as one of the reasons for the ongoing decline and fall of Western Civilization

I went through two seperate acadamies in the 1980s. Is this what is being taught today? We were taught how to be ethical and correct in our actions.

79 posted on 04/10/2008 9:27:37 AM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Was it Solzhenitsyn who wondered how different Russia would have been if KGB/GRU agents stopped returning from such activities?

Yes:

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? . . ."

". . . After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur "what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"

The Gulag Archipelago - Alexander Solzhenitsyn

80 posted on 04/10/2008 9:27:52 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (A couple of pints and a package of crisps. Ahhh...life's good.)
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