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Bank on the SAVE Act for Immigration Reform
Human Events ^ | 04/07/2008 | Ross Kaminsky

Posted on 04/09/2008 5:16:32 PM PDT by Delacon

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"If John McCain is indeed opposing the bill (and for now I will accept his office’s denials), he’d do well to make sure he does it behind closed doors. If he thinks that conservatives are wavering about supporting him now, proven reports of his interfering in the passage of the SAVE Act could be politically devastating."

You got that right.

1 posted on 04/09/2008 5:16:33 PM PDT by Delacon
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ping


2 posted on 04/09/2008 5:18:31 PM PDT by Delacon (“The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H. L. Mencken)
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Sounds like a good bill right now. I distrust, to put it mildly, what peeeelosi and the senatewhores will do to it.


3 posted on 04/09/2008 5:23:02 PM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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No provision is made for amnesty for illegal aliens, which is why the House Democratic leadership views this bill as welcome as a case of smallpox.

The key sentence here.

Voting for dems has consequences.

4 posted on 04/09/2008 5:25:21 PM PDT by umgud
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Gee we support your bill but we can’t support the discharge petition????? Kinda like we support the troops but oppose the war. I know this is a pipe dream, but wouldn’t it be nice to kick out any lawmaker opposed to this bill? This might be the first bill in written by a democrat in 40 years I support.


5 posted on 04/09/2008 5:27:01 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Lead...follow...or get the HELL out of the way!)
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Speaking of history, I’d like to know if its ever happened before that a bill that was sponsored by one party, while that party was in the majority, yet a discharge petition happened to get it out of committee and the opposing/minority party had a majority(overwhelming) of the signatures. This has to be a historical and quantifiable indication that dems will say one thing to fool the people then do the opposite.


6 posted on 04/09/2008 5:37:52 PM PDT by Delacon (“The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H. L. Mencken)
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"which is why the House Democratic leadership views this bill as welcome as a case of smallpox."

Hehehe...mclame is cursing this bill to hell!!! In silence, of course.

7 posted on 04/09/2008 5:47:30 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (A Lesser Evil Is Still Evil.)
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McCain-Feingold was the last bill to be discharged from committee by petition. But, it was bilateral. But, the committee was controlled by the GOP.


8 posted on 04/09/2008 6:06:38 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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Thanks. While I despise McCain Feingold, it was a truely bi-partisan bill. Also, I don’t put much stock in bi-partisanship. We’re right, they are wrong. Get as many people to agree with us as possible and win the argument. Yet Schuler’s “Save Act” was a clear attempt by Pelosi’s dem ran house to offer up a bill that is popular and dems could run on in November knowing full well that it would never be a reality. Now its coming back to bite them in the ass. The only “honest” dems in the picture are the 7 out of the original 49(who signed the actual bill) who signed the petition. The other 42, I am sure, are up for election in November and should be run out of office just on principle.


9 posted on 04/09/2008 6:33:44 PM PDT by Delacon (“The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H. L. Mencken)
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There is another question: If, somehow, SAVE was discharged by petition, would all the republicans who signed the discharge petition vote to pass the bill in a floor vote?


10 posted on 04/09/2008 6:41:07 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Delacon

No provision is made for amnesty for illegal aliens, which is why the House Democratic leadership (and Juanito McCain) views this bill as welcome as a case of smallpox.


11 posted on 04/09/2008 6:42:30 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://constitutionparty.com/join.php)
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Who led the fight in the Senate last year for amnesty for illegals?


12 posted on 04/09/2008 6:43:42 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://constitutionparty.com/join.php)
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I would guess that most all of the republicans who signed the petition(I’d like to add all except for 1 co-signed the actual bill) will vote for the bill if it should reach the floor. Anti-illegal immigration reform tends to be a conservative cause. The only reason for the republicans not to vote for it is if they were trying to hide their conservative credentials to the voting public. Why co-sign the bill AND the petition if thats the case? I just don’t see the calculus where these republicans don’t vote for the bill.


13 posted on 04/09/2008 6:55:28 PM PDT by Delacon (“The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H. L. Mencken)
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Umm, haven’t all the signers of the petition already signed the bill? Do they have to re sign the bill if it goes to the floor?


14 posted on 04/09/2008 7:04:59 PM PDT by Delacon (“The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H. L. Mencken)
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Hmmmmmmm couldnt of been McBot man, lol....No not him, he wouldn’t do such a thing....lol


15 posted on 04/09/2008 7:08:01 PM PDT by Poetgal26 (God bless the US Military and our vets! (RIP Sgt Matthew Maupin))
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bookmark for later. I am stunned Nancy Boyda signed the discharge petition.
16 posted on 04/09/2008 7:22:55 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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Who led the fight in the Senate last year for amnesty for illegals?

Yes, I know, but the reason it failed was because there were enough republicans in the house along with a few dems who beat it back.

17 posted on 04/09/2008 7:31:42 PM PDT by umgud
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Voting for dems has consequences.

This includes dems with a R next to their names.
18 posted on 04/09/2008 8:01:22 PM PDT by CottonBall (A minority is powerless while it conforms to the majority. "Civil Disobedience", Henry D.Thoreau)
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“Do they have to re sign the bill if it goes to the floor?”

Well, they have to vote for it to pass it. Sometimes making up phoney excuses not to so they can have it both ways. I was for it before I was against if sort of thing.


19 posted on 04/09/2008 8:40:01 PM PDT by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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"McCain Feingold... a truely bi-partisan ELITIST-INCUMBENT bill."

The suits that have pirated the parties, against the People.
20 posted on 04/09/2008 8:41:00 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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