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BBC: Iraqi leader warns Sadr movement
BBC ^ | Monday, 7 April 2008 16:41 UK | BBC Staff

Posted on 04/07/2008 10:00:21 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Iraqi leader warns Sadr movement

Iraqi protestors march in Baghdad carrying a poster of Moqtada Sadr, 4 April 2008
Shia Iraqis have marched in support of Moqtada Sadr

Iraq's prime minister has threatened to exclude the supporters of radical cleric Moqtada Sadr from politics.

Nouri Maliki told CNN that the cleric's movement would not be allowed to take part in elections unless it disbanded its militia, the Mehdi Army.

The prime minister and major Iraqi parties had already called for militias to be dissolved as the government waged a security campaign against the groups.

But it was the first time that Mr Maliki had singled out the Mehdi Army.

Aides to Moqtada Sadr on Monday said he would disband the militia if senior Shia religious leaders ordered him to do so.

They said a delegation would be sent to discuss the issue with the top Shia cleric in Iraq, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, and a grand ayatollah based in Iran.

Growing confrontation

In his interview, Mr Maliki said: "A decision was taken... that they no longer have a right to participate in the political process or take part in the upcoming elections unless they end the Mehdi Army.

"Solving the problem comes in no other way than dissolving the Mehdi Army."

We have opened the door for confrontation, a real confrontation with these gangs

Nouri Maliki,
Iraqi prime minister

The provincial elections are scheduled for later this year.

Mr Maliki took power with the help of Moqtada Sadr, but broke with the cleric last year.

The BBC's Adam Brookes in Baghdad says the confrontation between the two men is growing.

Two weeks ago the prime minister sent thousands of troops into the city of Basra to try to force the Mehdi Army into submission.

The militia withdrew from the streets, but the operation was inconclusive.

Mr Maliki said the government would continue the crackdown. "We have opened the door for confrontation, a real confrontation with these gangs, and we will not stop until we are in full control of these areas," he said.

An MP for the Sadr bloc, Liqaa Aal Yassin, told the BBC Arabic service that two delegations would be sent - to Grand Ayatollah Sistani in Najaf and Grand Ayatollah Kazem al-Husseini al-Haeri in Iran - to discuss the possible disbanding of the Mehdi Army.

Ms Yassin said the government was also sending a delegation to Moqtada Sadr to discuss Mr Maliki's demand.

Mr Maliki's comments came after heavy fighting between US and Iraqi forces and the Mehdi Army at the weekend.

At least 22 people were killed and more than 50 others injured in clashes in the capital's eastern district of Sadr City, a stronghold of the militia.

Five US soldiers were killed, including three who died during rocket and mortar attacks in Baghdad.

Two of those died in attacks on the heavily-fortified Green Zone.

Moqtada Sadr has called for a mass demonstration on Wednesday against the US military presence.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iraq; sadr
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1 posted on 04/07/2008 10:00:22 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: NormsRevenge; elhombrelibre; Allegra; SandRat; tobyhill; G8 Diplomat; Dog; Cap Huff; ...

fyi


2 posted on 04/07/2008 10:01:13 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We are long past the tipping point now.

The resistance to the American coalition and her associated Iraqi allies is doomed.

The forces against Sadr and his Iranian henchmen continue to grow.


3 posted on 04/07/2008 10:04:36 AM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: jveritas; Allegra; Marine_Uncle; NormsRevenge
Related thread:

Iraq's Sadr to disband Mehdi Army if clerics order (Cover for Surrender)

Maliki says ....what the clerics say doesn't matter!!!!

4 posted on 04/07/2008 10:04:51 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
In his interview, Mr Maliki said: "A decision was taken... that they no longer have a right to participate in the political process or take part in the upcoming elections unless they end the Mehdi Army.

This is not a good thing. The Iraqi government should not be excluding people from government. This is what goes on in places like Iran.

5 posted on 04/07/2008 10:07:37 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I like this. Maliki seems to be stiffening up.


6 posted on 04/07/2008 10:08:40 AM PDT by karnage
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To: Straight Vermonter
This is not a good thing. The Iraqi government should not be excluding people from government.

They're a rogue element that is comprised of terrorists funded by another nation.

7 posted on 04/07/2008 10:11:04 AM PDT by Allegra (Tehran delenda est)
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To: Allegra

I know very well who and what they are. However, when the current government gets to decide who the “valid” candidates are there is no longer a democracy.

What Maliki is talking about is the politics of Iran, Egypt and Saddam’s Iraq.


8 posted on 04/07/2008 10:14:56 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

I think they should disarm first...and break any ties to Iran...


9 posted on 04/07/2008 10:20:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Translation: There is only one law in Iraq, Mookie. And you ain’t it.


10 posted on 04/07/2008 10:21:55 AM PDT by Pistolshot (When you let what you are define who you are, you create racial divisiveness.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They should do both but that is a separate issue from their participation in politics.


11 posted on 04/07/2008 10:22:50 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080407/wl_nm/iraq_dc

“Iraqi cleric Moqtada al-Sadr offered on Monday to disband his militia if the highest Shi'ite religious authority demand it, a shock announcement at a time when the group is the focus of an upsurge in fighting”

I wonder if he had a wake up call with actions like this: an ‘exercise’ in Sadr City executed by the newly trained Iraqi Army with our Spec Opts backup? (We done trained ‘em good!) If he complies with the Clerics demand, he thinks he won't be seen as surrendering...

Here's a video to warm the cockles of the heart http://youtube.com/watch?v=3tMDhVu-f2Q

12 posted on 04/07/2008 10:24:52 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Excellent for Maliki.


13 posted on 04/07/2008 10:25:19 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Straight Vermonter

What if the decision is made by more in the Government than just Maliki?....


14 posted on 04/07/2008 10:25:55 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: maine-iac7

What if the cleric in Iraq says disarem but the one in Iran says don’t?...which is what I will predict....


15 posted on 04/07/2008 10:27:54 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That is really like saying what if the Ba’ath party decided that so-and-so should be excluded. I’m not saying Sadr doesn’t not deserve a dirt nap but this is a dangerous road for Iraq to go down.


16 posted on 04/07/2008 10:29:05 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter
I know very well who and what they are.

No need to be snarky.

However, when the current government gets to decide who the “valid” candidates are there is no longer a democracy.

There have to be standards. We have them, too.

If a party is violating Iraqi law, then the party should become ineligible.

If elements of the party are promoting terrorism and sedition (allegiance to Iran), then it's the responsibility of that party of break completely from those elements or face disbarment.

17 posted on 04/07/2008 10:29:25 AM PDT by Allegra (Tehran delenda est)
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To: Straight Vermonter

“This is not a good thing. The Iraqi government should not be excluding people from government. This is what goes on in places like Iran.”

This is also what went on during the Reconstruction after the Civil War. Confederate loyalists were not permitted to vote in federal elections for a number of years.

I believe there was a similar action with British loyalists after the Revolutionary War.

In short, this is pretty standard operating procedure for a war-torn nation. If you want to keep fighting after everybody else - even on your own side - has agreed to sit down and work things out peacefully, then you don’t get to participate in the discussions until you calm down and wise up.


18 posted on 04/07/2008 10:30:36 AM PDT by Omedalus
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To: Allegra
Pardon me if I came across as being snarky, that wasn't my intent.

There have to be standards. We have them, too.

Could you explain to me what these are?

19 posted on 04/07/2008 10:32:01 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Omedalus

The south suffered for 100 years as a result. Let’s hope the Iraqis learn from our mistakes.


20 posted on 04/07/2008 10:34:52 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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