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1 posted on 04/07/2008 7:57:18 AM PDT by moderatewolverine
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Iraq is a classic “Pay me now or pay me much more later” situation. The Democrats need to understand Iran isn’t backing down. Radical Islamism goes way back. We fought it before and beat it. We need to do so again. Instead of rifles and knives we’re potentially dealing with nukes this time around.

Last time the quiters had their way, probably a million people died because we left Vietnam. We’ll be lucky if only a million die as a consequence of the quiter’s temper tantrum.


2 posted on 04/07/2008 8:22:25 AM PDT by meatloaf
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Except that we already won. The goal-post just keeps changing. Iraq was conquered with speed and precision with only a little over 100 losses on our side. The country was cleared for WMDs (a valid military objective). As if that wasn’t enough, our military even removed the Sadam regime for the Iraqi people, putting them on the path to forge a new and better future for themselves. When given the chance, they voted in only Islamic clerics. As if that wasn’t enough, a whole lot of bad guys were killed in the process (always a good thing).

Our military served with honor. They come home with honor and just because the politicians keep setting non-military objectives does not mean our military has failed in Iraq. The people of iraq failed and our leadership failed to clearly identify and articulate to the American people the difference between valid, achievable military objectives and humanitarian nation building efforts that sometimes work (when those defeated are ready and capable of forging their own futures with a little bit of assistance) but usually do not work.

Phase two of the WOT should have begun years ago. The phase of punishing other regimes who harbor, support, encourage, and fund terrorist networks around the world. This was the pretext we were given for war and it got derailed by the humanitarians, many of which can be found on sites just like this.


3 posted on 04/07/2008 8:27:29 AM PDT by LaurenD
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The American people don't want to lose a war. The argument the Democrats make is the American people would lose this one because the prospects of a decisive victory are remote. But that is turning it upside for the prescription Democrats offer is not a push for all out victory but a prescription for unmitigated defeat abroad. They have every right to make that argument. What they don't have the right to do is to say it won't have tremendous consequences for America's position as a hyperpower and for her credibility in the world. No one can foresee how defeat will affect America in the years and decades to come. We all know what victory would mean. If it wasn't possible to secure victory in Iraq, then by all means we should extricate ourselves from there and find a way to contain the damage. But as long as we can win, we have no right to abandon the battlefield in the face of a challenge that is imminently surmountable and an enemy that can be decisively defeated. We owe America's soldiers and the future of the country at least that much.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 04/07/2008 8:56:24 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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