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Why Iraq Matters
National Review ^ | April 7, 2008 | Frederick W. Kagan

Posted on 04/07/2008 7:57:18 AM PDT by moderatewolverine

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To: LaurenD

“there won’t be any more terrorist networks all around the world with the means and intent of attacking Americans”

An unachievable objective.

“So we’re not at war against global terrorism?”

A strawman. And you have yet to qualify your previous claims.


41 posted on 04/07/2008 7:38:48 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: awake-n-angry
Did you say something, sweetie-pie?

Nope, didn't think so.

42 posted on 04/08/2008 5:43:28 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: LaurenD
Kiss off newbie dweeb. The last time I checked, my views are right in line with the people that founded and run this site.

You got the nerve to go spew that foul crap to them?

Do you?!?!?!?

43 posted on 04/08/2008 5:46:08 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: LaurenD

Well said.

Our troops in uniform do not have the luxury of political activism and they depend on us, the civilian populous, to speak for common sense and keep an eye on our foreign policy. Too many people who would otherwise call themselves conservatism have dropped the ball and will turn over the fate of our military to scoundrels like Maliki and the self-interest driven Iraqi parliment (half of whom have fled the country and live abroad. Al Sadr lives in Iran).

There is no evidence that anyone in the Iraq government is an allie of the US and they are using us for everything that they can get out of us. Unfortunately that sometimes means the blood of our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines.


44 posted on 04/08/2008 11:42:51 AM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: death2tyrants

The 40% attrition rate was from a news interview with the Baghdad press spokesmen during the recent fighting in Basra.

We did not install the Iraq government but they are completely useless and seldom can muster a quorum no less develop legislation or services. They are a fractured set of tribes who are cutting each others throats and getting us killed in the cross-fire. They will never be a real allie and will cut us down as soon as they have bled all they can from us. Soldiers that I know from my own neighborhood who I have spoken to in person tell of feeling better without Iraqi troops around as you never know in which direction and at whom they will fire their weapons. This is a mess.

Our troops defeated Saddam. We defeated their military and ended any threat that they may have posed. Now the swine that are filling the posts in their government are using us and taking advantage with no up side for us.


45 posted on 04/08/2008 11:51:19 AM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: awake-n-angry

“The 40% attrition rate was from a news interview with the Baghdad press spokesmen during the recent fighting in Basra.”

Source please. Your unwillingness to support your previous claims means you have no credibility. You claimed that Maliki went against U.S. suggestions. You have failed to provide a source for this statement.

“We did not install the Iraq government but they are completely useless “

Well,they are waging battle against both Al Qaeda in Iraq and the Mahadi army, so of course they would be ‘completely useless’ from your point of view.

“They will never be a real ally...”

They are already proving you wrong by waging war against Al Qaeda and Iranian backed militias.

“Soldiers that I know from my own neighborhood who I have spoken..”

Like I said earlier, you have no credibility, you just spout unsupported defeatist talking points of the left. Judging by your posts, I’ll assume you are a 19 year old college student at Berkley and have never spoken to a soldier except to hurl obsenities at them with other code-pinkers.


46 posted on 04/08/2008 1:57:48 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: goldstategop

BTTT!


47 posted on 04/08/2008 4:56:49 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: death2tyrants; safeasthebanks

Recent news articles support everyone of my assertions that the Iraqi military and security police are fraught with unreliable traitors and that the government is made up of thugs with private militais who are out for themselves and not for a united, stable Iraq.

Our troops are doing a great job militarily but the necessary political advancements will never come from the corrupt crowd that is in there now. Further, there are no Iraqi heroes who will step up.


48 posted on 04/14/2008 8:47:22 AM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: awake-n-angry; death2tyrants; safeasthebanks

Copy of link that reports on assertions:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080413/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

on FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2001343/posts


49 posted on 04/14/2008 8:49:42 AM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: awake-n-angry

Go away, newbie dweeb (1,300 members of the police AND military is hardly qualifies as “fraught with”, Einstein.)


50 posted on 04/14/2008 9:09:29 AM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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