Posted on 04/07/2008 7:57:18 AM PDT by moderatewolverine
Losing wars is always bad. One of the major reasons for America’s current global predominance economically and politically is that America doesn’t lose wars very often. It seems likely, however, that the American people are about to be told that they have to decide to lose the Iraq war, that accepting defeat is better than trying to win, and that the consequences of defeat will be less than the costs of continuing to fight. For some, the demand to “end this war” is a reprise of the great triumph of their generation: forcing the U.S. to lose the Vietnam War and feel good about it. But even some supporters are being seduced by their own weariness of the struggle, and are being tempted to believe the unfounded defeatism — combined with the unfounded optimism about the consequences of defeat — that hyper-sophisticates have offered during every major conflict. Americans have a right to be weary of this conflict and to desire to bring it to an end. But before we choose the easier and more comfortable wrong over the harder and more distasteful right, we should examine more closely the two core assumptions that underlie the current antiwar arguments: that we must lose this war because we cannot win it at any acceptable cost, and that it will be better to lose than to continue trying to win.
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“there won’t be any more terrorist networks all around the world with the means and intent of attacking Americans”
An unachievable objective.
“So we’re not at war against global terrorism?”
A strawman. And you have yet to qualify your previous claims.
Nope, didn't think so.
You got the nerve to go spew that foul crap to them?
Do you?!?!?!?
Well said.
Our troops in uniform do not have the luxury of political activism and they depend on us, the civilian populous, to speak for common sense and keep an eye on our foreign policy. Too many people who would otherwise call themselves conservatism have dropped the ball and will turn over the fate of our military to scoundrels like Maliki and the self-interest driven Iraqi parliment (half of whom have fled the country and live abroad. Al Sadr lives in Iran).
There is no evidence that anyone in the Iraq government is an allie of the US and they are using us for everything that they can get out of us. Unfortunately that sometimes means the blood of our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines.
The 40% attrition rate was from a news interview with the Baghdad press spokesmen during the recent fighting in Basra.
We did not install the Iraq government but they are completely useless and seldom can muster a quorum no less develop legislation or services. They are a fractured set of tribes who are cutting each others throats and getting us killed in the cross-fire. They will never be a real allie and will cut us down as soon as they have bled all they can from us. Soldiers that I know from my own neighborhood who I have spoken to in person tell of feeling better without Iraqi troops around as you never know in which direction and at whom they will fire their weapons. This is a mess.
Our troops defeated Saddam. We defeated their military and ended any threat that they may have posed. Now the swine that are filling the posts in their government are using us and taking advantage with no up side for us.
“The 40% attrition rate was from a news interview with the Baghdad press spokesmen during the recent fighting in Basra.”
Source please. Your unwillingness to support your previous claims means you have no credibility. You claimed that Maliki went against U.S. suggestions. You have failed to provide a source for this statement.
“We did not install the Iraq government but they are completely useless “
Well,they are waging battle against both Al Qaeda in Iraq and the Mahadi army, so of course they would be ‘completely useless’ from your point of view.
“They will never be a real ally...”
They are already proving you wrong by waging war against Al Qaeda and Iranian backed militias.
“Soldiers that I know from my own neighborhood who I have spoken..”
Like I said earlier, you have no credibility, you just spout unsupported defeatist talking points of the left. Judging by your posts, I’ll assume you are a 19 year old college student at Berkley and have never spoken to a soldier except to hurl obsenities at them with other code-pinkers.
BTTT!
Recent news articles support everyone of my assertions that the Iraqi military and security police are fraught with unreliable traitors and that the government is made up of thugs with private militais who are out for themselves and not for a united, stable Iraq.
Our troops are doing a great job militarily but the necessary political advancements will never come from the corrupt crowd that is in there now. Further, there are no Iraqi heroes who will step up.
Copy of link that reports on assertions:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080413/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
on FR:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2001343/posts
Go away, newbie dweeb (1,300 members of the police AND military is hardly qualifies as “fraught with”, Einstein.)
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