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To: panthermom

If you read what I wrote you would see that I made absolutely no assumptions about the vehicles you drove. I simply presented and easily understood mathematical formula that said, if you doubled your gas mileage, you would halve your gas bill.

I assume that you have done your own calculations as smart business person regarding the price of diesel vs. gasoline and the relative efficiency of each and decided wisely on your vehicle purchases based on that. Right?

Regardless, based on the information you gave me I would be willing to bet you could find a vehicle to replace each in your fleet that was 50% more efficient. Of course, you might not be able to get it in the US because the demand is too low, but perhaps eventually you will.

By the way, have you concerned yourself with the math of US production versus its proven reserves? The US has 21 billion barrels of oil. If it pumps 7.5 million per day, how long with 21 billion barrels last? Maybe you will rethink your drilling scenario once you pull out your calculator.


51 posted on 04/07/2008 8:12:55 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Bomb Liechtenstein!)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

Using your numbers, the US could supply itself for a fantastic 7 years and 8 months. And that’s supposing we cut all imports from Canada, Saudi Arabia, Venezuel... So the reality is that those 21 billion barrels would last quite some time. To the point where new technologies allow us to obtain oil from previously unreachable sources, which just keeps on happening.

Maybe you are of the mentality that if it only helps a little and doesn’t solve the entire problem, then it’s not worth making the effort.

Of course we also have the little problem of not having built a refinery since 1976.


54 posted on 04/07/2008 9:23:36 AM PDT by OA5599
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit; panthermom
If you read what I wrote you would see that I made absolutely no assumptions about the vehicles you drove. I simply presented and easily understood mathematical formula that said, if you doubled your gas mileage, you would halve your gas bill.

You are a liar. You definitely assumed what type of vehicle they drive by telling them to get a smaller one. Thus you were assuming they drive big ones, and drive them because they want to not because they have to. Furthermore, your stupid, and it is stupid there is no other word for it, statement that all we will get if we drill is a few million barrels of oil just does not even deserve a reply.

We have billions of barrels in the ground that we are not allowed to get because of nonsensical enviro laws. On top of that you must add the refineries that we haven't built, which is one of our main problems, over the last 30 years.

There is no "long term" solution, at least not at this point in time. Drilling for new oil and building new refineries is the answer that will take care of the immediate need, and then it will take years to see the effect of this, and research can be ongoing to find your mythical long term solution. There is none available now.

If you people who believe that we are almost out of oil are so sure of this, then just lie back and wait, it will happen soon enough, according to you, and then you can push your "long term" solutions.

Meanwhile I will relegate you to the troll pile where you belong.

58 posted on 04/07/2008 9:50:23 AM PDT by calex59
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