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To: DelphiUser; prayforpeaceofJerusalem
Have you been following along? God specifically praised Abraham for his righteousness while he was polygamous! God said he gave David his wives, Moses wrote the books of the law while living in a polygamous marriage... It's not just a oops they had a flaw, and where is this argument when people are trying to tell me about Joseph Smith's flaws, can I refer them to you?

Oh but we can point out joey's flaws because at least in the cases you cited, they were not lying about it at the same time they were telling the congregation that is was against god's will. Or in joey’s case, his inability to hear god correctly confusing the god edict condemning polygamy (D&C – 1935) with god edict – enforced by an angel w/ sword – to be polygamous. Can’t your committee of gods get their story straight?

2,565 posted on 04/11/2008 10:15:05 PM PDT by Godzilla (The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: Godzilla

Of course you make a point about the deception and lying, but Moses was not polygamous, so Mormons claiming so are deceived and deceiving -it just ain’t so!

The Book of Jasher [which is a historical chronicle of the tribes of Adam down the ages, through Abraham’s ancestors and his descendents to the time Joshua entered Canaan], states that when Moses was made king of Cush, after he had fled Egypt, that the Cushites [Ethiopians] made him king after the death of the king whom Moses had advised for nine years, while there.
They gave to Moses the wife of the dead king, and it seems that in Moses’ position, refusing to take her would have been a political disaster. He got the king’s house, so he got the dead king’s wife: but the Book of Jasher states that Moses did not go in to her and have sexual relations with her [for political and religious reasons].
“And they placed the royal crown upon his head, and they gave him for a wife Adoniah the Cushite queen, wife of Kikianus.

And Moses feared the Lord God of his fathers, so that he came not to her, nor did he turn his eyes to her.

For Moses remembered how Abraham had made his servant Eliezer swear, saying unto him, Thou shalt not take a woman from the daughters of Canaan for my son Isaac....”
http://www.ccel.org/a/anonymous/jasher/72.htm [and the next page after that one]

Then, Abraham was not told by YHWH to take Hagar as a wife, but when he listened to Sarah, they both suffered grief...then, God had Abraham send Hagar away, which in the Hebrew can mean the same as divorce.

The Book of Jasher explicitly states that after Sarah died, Abraham again took a wife [as Genesis states, also], using the same term that is used for Sarah, for “wife”, and so Abraham was monogamous, but for the time of listening to Sarah, which has brought grief for the world, through Ismael’s descendents.

Another thing that ancient history records is that Hagar married a husband after she was sent away by Abraham, and her descendents by that one are called “Hagarites”.
They are intermarried with Ishmael’s descendents down through history.

So Mormon’s who use the failings of fallen men to excuse their own disobedience to Jesus Christ, who gave one woman to be the wife of one man, when He formed Adam in His image [as God the Word, who was to come; Romans 5:14], are simply speaking deception and are deceived, to heap up sin by their own lusts’ fulfillments.

When YHWH gave the law through Moses, He said [for a future king who would come]; “A king must not multiply wives unto himself”.

David was not right in his multiplying wives. He broke the law, and his family life was horrid, with one son raping one daughter, and another son killing that half brother who did that deed because David would not discipline him.

David sinned and suffered, but he also repented, and his repentence and seeking YHWH with all his heart is the reason that YHWH said he was a man after YHWH’s heart.

Even Jacob, the deceiver/supplanter, did not become a true follower of YHWH until his encounter with Jesus Christ, in the pre-incarnate Person of God the Word -who was to come [Romans 5:14; Hosea 12:3-5]- as the second creation human being [whose name as the second Man is “Israel”; Isaiah 49], when He appeared to Jacob and wrestled with him, and gave Jacob His own New Man Name [which was to come] as a sign of the adoption into His name, which was to come, in Genesis 32.

-And the legacy of sexual immorality which David left Solomon only grew, in Solomon, who became a reprobate, as 1 Kings chapter 11 states, because of his taking the wives whom YHWH had said not to do, and taking heathen ones and worshipping their gods.

No where in the Word of God does anything good come of taking multiple wives, while the first is living. The only thing we see in the Word is dysfunctional families and heartache increased, and no happy homes, because of that.

Jesus forbids the practice of polygamy, and no one can serve as bishop in the NT Church if they have more than one wife, and only if the one wife be dead are they free to marry another, says the Word of God in the NT;


2,580 posted on 04/12/2008 1:54:19 AM PDT by prayforpeaceofJerusalem
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