I appreciate your feedback, P, but I think youre operating with 2 strikes against you: First, youre allowing more contemporary cultural examples to cloud your off-the-cuff assessmentand thats exactly what it isoff-the cuff (you say, I would venture to say ). If we have a specific pattern of Scriptural insight, why do we need to venture out upon contemporary living arrangements (your example of common-law marriages) as the basis of our understanding?
Secondly, perhaps your own LDS background colors your view. (Many ex-LDS have polygamists in their family tree, and of course we think the best of them & color our vantage point accordingly).
As for the specific pattern of Scriptural insight, we have two leads:
(1) What distinctions, if any, does the broader Old Testament make between marriage and concubinage?
(2) What distinctions, if any, were present during with Abraham's family? (Genesis 11 thru Gen. 30).
Broader Old Testament distinctions
Example 1: Solomon 700 wives & 300 concubines (1 Kings 11:3). If this was simply some worthless distinction, why didnt the writer simply use the nice round number of 1,000 wives? (He didnt; there must have been a reason).
Example 2: Saul Wife Ahinoam (1 Sam. 14:50); Rizpah concubine (2 Sam. 3:7). Why the distinction?
Example 3: Manasseh He had (at least) two women in his life; Aramitess is clearly identified as a concubine (1 Chron. 7:14). Why?
Example 4: Caleb Caleb His first wifeAzubah died (1 Chron 2:18-19). He took a second wifeEphrata (1 Chron. 2:18-19). Ephah & Maachah were clearly idd as Calebs concubines (1 Chron. 2:46, 48). Why?
Example 5: David Based upon 2 Sam. 12:8, Davids the only Biblical support for a mix and match understanding of concubinage = marriage. These same women are idd as concubines in 2 Sam. 16:21-22. But the word used for these women in 2 Sam. 12 is issah, which can simply mean woman as well as wife. The book of Judges uses issah once for concubine. And if Bathsheba was simply an add-on to Davids harem (were not sure when his wife Michal died), why is Bathsheba idd as his wife (2 Sam. 11:27)? Why didnt Scripture simply identify her as yet another concubine?
Abraham's Family (Gen. 11-30)
I think the strongest arguments against concubine being used interchangeably with wife comes from Abraham himself & his family--namely his brother and his grandson.
Example 6: Abrahams brother, Nahor Nahors wife was Milcah (Gen. 11:29), who bore him 8. Reumah is clearly idd as a concubine who bore him 4 children (Gen. 22:20-24). If Nahor simply had two wives, why bother making this distinction?
You say: The fact of the matter is that there were no legal marriage rules at the time.
Saying there were no legal marriage rules assumes two things (a) that God did not leave a traditional custom passed down through Adam and Eve and (b) that marriage is at its foundation a legal entity (your use of the words, legal and rules).
P, marriage is ultimately a God thingnot a legal thing. Its tied to creation, not to social legal theory: For this reason [the creation account of Eve in Gen. 2:21-23] a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh. The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame. (Gen. 2:24-25)
P, ya wanna explain why father and mother are mentioned in Gen. 2:24 when Adam & Eve had no mother? (The belly button issue). Obviously Gen. 2:24 is Gods policy for mankind beyond just Adam & Eve, and it says wifenot wives.
You say: While the Marriage to Sarah was recognized as valid, the marriage to Hagar has not been widely accepted as valid.
But why was his marriage to Sarah recognized as valid? Could it perhaps, just perhaps be because Scripture says they were actually married?
Example 7: Abraham himself P, even though you mention Abrams marriage, you imply that his household arrangements were categorized based upon social recognition. Its almost like you imply Abram and Sarai were simply shacking up as common-law husband & wife. But what does Scripture say? Abram and Nahor both married. The name of Abrams wife was Sarai, and the name of Nahors wife was Milcah (Gen. 11:29) [So much for a theory of a free-wheeling, open-ended early concept of living arrangements]
Ive already put up a couple of posts that clearly shows that Hagar was never referenced as anything other than a servant girl and mother. [Abraham outlived Sarah, 175-127 therefore he took another wife, Ketura after her death (Gen. 25:1).]
Example 8: Abrahams grandson, Jacob Jacob never chose to be married to two wives. It was deception that brought Leah into the picture. (And God is NOT a deceiver). If concubine was simply a term for an add-on wife, then why is Rachel idd as a wife?
It wasnt Jacobs idea, either to sleep with his wives servant girls. (That was their idea). Those girls are never idd as anything other than that: note, for example, that Leah was given a "bridal week" even after the deception in Gen. 29. So the question would be for Rachel's maidservant: If shacking up is the same as marriage, where was her "bridal week" between Gen. 30:3 (Rachel's idea) and Gen. 30:4 (sexual liaison carried out with maidservant)? No mention, there, of a new "bridal week" or "bridal day"...no assumption, therefore, that this was "polygamy" in terms of additional "wives." (In fact, it doesnt even sound like Jacob regularly slept with these servant girls
and why would he? He had two wives).
I guess once you start repeating this lie long enough, you can't help but keep it as part of your Mormon heritage package, eh, DU?
First of all the timetables of Moses' 2 wives (of when they lived & died) is not id'd in Scripture...so your accusation of polygamy is based upon assumption. Secondly, Abraham is never identified in the Bible as being in an ongoing intimate relationship with Hagar...and in fact, Hagar in the Bible is never id'd as a wife or anything other than a servant girl. (But we understand, DU, that D&C 132 colors your viewpoint of the Bible...and that D&C 132 was written by a cohort of Smith's so that he could take it in to Emma to convince her of Smith adding on to his harem).
As for Jacob, he never iniatiated a double-wife family. It was deception that brought Leah into the picture. (And God is NOT a deceiver nor the author of deception). But now we know, DU, that you accuse God of being the author of deception. Repent, for it is blasphemy to accuse God of being such an author!
(Oh, and BTW, virtually all of the hallowed names of the OT were NOT polygamous...another lie of yours! Adam? Noah? Abraham? (sleeping with a slave girl once or a few times does not = polygamy) Moses? Aaron? Joshua? Samuel? Nehemiah? Ezra? Isaac? How about most of the heads of the 12 tribes of Israel? Isaiah? Jeremiah? Daniel? Are you that misread of the Old Testament that you can't even describe their family relationships correctly? Are you simply mistating these things because you are mistaken, or are you attempting to deceive others?)
and now you want to tell me it's not biblical, well, show me a scripture that condemns Polygamy...
I already quoted it to you in an earlier post on this thread: Deut. 17:17: He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray. Sure enough, what happened in Solomon's life despite this direct warning? ...his sives led him astray...his wives turned his heart after other gods, and his heart was not fully devoted to the Lord his God..." (1 Kings 11:3-4)[Even the Book of Mormon...Jacob 2:24,27...condemns polygamy, yet you continually defend it!!!]
And Sarai Abram's wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes. (Genesis 16:3-4 KJV)
The Hebrew word for "WIFE" in that verse is the same word used in the following verses:
And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. (Genesis 2:23-25 KJV)
Therefore it is clear that Abram took Hagar to be his WIFE, in the same manner that Adam took Eve to be his wife. That would make Abram a polygamist.