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Duck and Cover: It’s the New Survivalism
New York Times ^ | 6 April 08 | By ALEX WILLIAMS

Posted on 04/05/2008 5:57:03 PM PDT by shrinkermd

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To: hiredhand; Squantos
WOOF!!
21 posted on 04/05/2008 8:55:54 PM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: Lurker
Be able to find your clothes and your weapons in the dark.

That's a good one!
22 posted on 04/05/2008 9:04:08 PM PDT by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: Lurker
... she turned to me and said "He'd be dead if he tried that sh** on me. You taught me to reload before I'm empty." I just smiled.

How do you not turn to grinning goo when she tells you something like that?

I'll never forget the night we were sitting at home when we heard what sounded like a gunshot outside. She immediately turned to me and said "get your gun, I'll kill the lights."

Lucky, indeed.

23 posted on 04/05/2008 9:26:49 PM PDT by papertyger (The left fosters lawlessness & bad culture by denying the legitimacy of the law and Western culture.)
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To: papertyger
How do you not turn to grinning goo when she tells you something like that?

Mrs L frequently has that effect on me. But since this is a family site, I won't be able to say more on the subject.

L

24 posted on 04/05/2008 9:37:15 PM PDT by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: hiredhand

A few decades back there was a big power outage in the northeast and not much happened.

But the country has changed so dramatically that things would be far different now.

Scarcely anyone can do anything without electricity. There’s no inventory in stores, no windows in them, no way to operate off-line. No heat, light, water or food.

Given the spread of nanny state helplessness and entitlement mentality, I’d give large cities two days before they were set ablaze and a week, tops, before they went streaming out into the countryside to pillage for food. Hopefully, they would already be out of gas and walking.


25 posted on 04/06/2008 4:39:37 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (!)
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To: FReepapalooza
I’m just thinking the people from Jericho were pretty civilized in their reactions, considering what happened.

I have a friend in a teeny little town out in NW Kansas. His income was farming but his 9 - 5 job was the bank president.

On one pheasant hunt out there a few years ago we were discussing stuff in general when the topic turned to survival. He made the statement that you could put a wall around that part of the country and they would survive just fine. They grow their own food stuffs, they all have guns and plenty of game, they repair their own equipment, they have their own water and they're used to going without electricity.

if worse came to worse he said, they'd just harness up the horses for the plowing and start cutting more wood for the stoves and fireplaces.....

26 posted on 04/06/2008 4:55:23 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that bling...doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah, doo-ah)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Maybe I should have worded that, people in small towns tend to be more organized and civilized in their reactions.

In cities and suburbs a lot of people don’t even know their neighbors. (Just more of our social breakdown, first the families, then the communities, then the country!)

It sure wouldn’t be like Jericho where I’m living.


27 posted on 04/06/2008 5:06:22 AM PDT by FReepapalooza (Joshua 3:4 ..."for ye have not passed this way heretofore.")
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
A few decades back there was a big power outage in the northeast and not much happened.

But the country has changed so dramatically that things would be far different now.

Scarcely anyone can do anything without electricity. There’s no inventory in stores, no windows in them, no way to operate off-line. No heat, light, water or food.

Given the spread of nanny state helplessness and entitlement mentality, I’d give large cities two days before they were set ablaze and a week, tops, before they went streaming out into the countryside to pillage for food. Hopefully, they would already be out of gas and walking.

I work for a large "unnamed" agency here in my state and one of my buddies is our DR/BC (Disaster Recovery - Business Continuity) officer. He used to work for the NRC (Nuclear Regulatory Commission) and he's a good source of information. He's like us in that he REFUSES to live "in town". He tells me that if any number of failures occur which cause shipments to stop to food stores that there is "about" 72 hours worth of food on the shelves. He's on my "list" of folks that are liable to show up out at our place if things go "south" (so to speak) :-).

Houses today aren't built to cool naturally, or heat either for that matter. The last major winter storm we had a couple of years back turned vast numbers of homes into "frozen boxes". We were snowed/iced in for a week along with NO power. But we heat with wood anyway. So we cooked on the wood stove. Our hot water is (nonelectric thermocouple) gas. After three days of no power, I got tired of having no Internet and back fed a 5.5KW genny. That was nice. :-) We were relatively unaffected.

When I got back to work (at the time I worked for a large telecom provider in RTP here in NC) and you would thought that everybody had just returned from a funeral. One guy told me about his experience in the "burbs". He said that the first night was "fun", and that they slept in front of the gas logs. By the end of the second night, the house was cooling off. By the end of the third night, the house was COLD. The fourth night was uncomfortable. The fifth night, their plumbing froze and the place was considered uninhabitable. So they went looking for hotel/motel accommodations. They had to go up into VA to find a place. Also, to make it worse, they had a very small child.

This guy looked at me after telling his story and said, "If it was this bad here in town, I can ONLY IMAGINE what you all went through out there in the "boonies"". I didn't have the heart to tell him that nothing changed for us....especially after connecting the genny.

These storms were only "about" five years ago, and already everybody in the "burbs" that I know have allowed their generators (that they bought in a hurry, and at inflated prices!) to gum up (fuel system). It's as if they've forgotten all about it!

They're VERY short sighted!
28 posted on 04/06/2008 11:13:08 AM PDT by hiredhand (Check my "about" page. I'm the Prophet of Doom!)
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To: FReepapalooza
It sure wouldn’t be like Jericho where I’m living.

Same here.......Remember a few years ago when almost the entire northeast was hit by that power failure? I think it occured on a Wednesday afternoon and power in my area wasn't restored till 2 days later.

That was a brief glimpse of what it could be like. Stoplights out and traffic backed up in every direction at every intersection. The supermarkets had a run on water and pop supplies, everybody was stocking up. By the second day the supermarkets were force to throw out all refrigerated products such as meat and stuff because it was going bad........Hardly anybody was driving at night because it was complete darkness.

My neighbors invited me over for a bar-b-q on one of the nights and I saw the most incredible thing. For the first time in my life here everybody was out walking around the neighborhoods just enjoying the weather. Thats all there was to do, there was no television, no computers, no nothing...........Thats not a bad thing.

29 posted on 04/06/2008 11:26:30 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: FReepapalooza
small towns tend to be more organized and civilized in their reactions

Out in Logan, KS, where my friend lives, there is just one small gas station in town. Its probably just for convenience and people passing thru.

Just at the edge of town there is a gasoline pump that is locked up. All the farmers out there have a key and thats where everyone pumps their gas for their vehicles and farming equipment. No attendant to pay, everyone keeps track of their own gasoline usage and at the end of the month they pay the co-op........the honor system.

30 posted on 04/06/2008 11:35:46 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco

Just last year we were hit with some kind of tornado/microburst with hurricane force winds that just devasted our neighborhood. We were without power for 5 days. Everyone in the neighborhood came out initially and helped where they could, but as soon as everyone ran out and purchased their own generator, it was right back to “normal”, if that’s what it is nowadays.


31 posted on 04/06/2008 12:31:26 PM PDT by FReepapalooza (Joshua 3:4 ..."for ye have not passed this way heretofore.")
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To: shrinkermd

Seeing alot of posts about gensets, food stockpiles, etc. Nobody’s mentioned meds. Anybody got prescription drug concerns? How about first aid? When the “lights go out”, infection is going to be your absolute number one concern. It’s going to be huge. An accidental cut from the camp knife, or scraped knuckles on tree bark can turn septic overnight. Little good then that stockpile of Perrier and Cheetos.


32 posted on 04/06/2008 5:26:56 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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To: PowderMonkey

Listerine is pretty cheap. Rubbing alcohol and hydrogen peroxide are even less expensive.


33 posted on 04/10/2008 6:35:11 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: hennie pennie

*bookmark*


34 posted on 01/03/2010 1:09:22 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: shrinkermd

Somewhere, Jethro Tull is smiling.


35 posted on 01/03/2010 1:15:08 PM PST by denydenydeny (The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
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To: Kozak

I got another 35 lbs of dried goods yesterday. Egg noodles, split peas, rice, etc.

About a week ago I decided to try how it would be to live off of the stuff, so I cooked egg noodles, made some gravy, pan fried the cooked noodles, and had them with gravy on top, peppercorns and some homegrown oregano.

Dam! It was GREAT!!! I’d go to a restaurant to have stuff like that!


36 posted on 01/03/2010 1:19:26 PM PST by djf (What has killed more people? 1) Guns in cars or 2) Cell phones in cars???? Do the math!!!!)
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To: hiredhand
Prophet of Doom??

>>> "Whatever happens next will be the biggest mess we'll ever get to see.....I'm guessing that the coming problems are going to be economic/financial, but nothing would surprise me anymore." <<<

VERY interesting, your presumption that an economic 'apocolypse' was imminent was quite prescient.

Interesting "about-me" page you have.

So, hiredhand, do you have any predictions for 2010?

Thanks.
HP

37 posted on 01/03/2010 4:45:32 PM PST by hennie pennie
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