S 1259, Ammunition Serialization Bill Introduced in South Carolina Senate

South Carolina Legislature Online ^ | 02 April 2008 | Dick Elliott [D]

[aomagrat]

[TexanToTheCore]

Man, these guys never give up.

[thulldud]

Idiots. Somebody watches entirely too much TV.

And tbey don't walk among us; we walk among them.

[kiriath_jearim]

Thanks for posting this.

[FlingWingFlyer]

More proof that too many people are doing too many “recreational drugs” in this country.

[VR-21]

Some time ago I concluded that the difference between ignorance and stupidity is that ignorance is finite. One can learn and no longer be ignorant, but stupidity is eternal...quite literally a force of nature.

[chainsaw]

Just refuse to sell ammunition to anyone in South Carolina, including law enforcement.

When the people start getting upset, the politician will change their tune quickly.

[Happy Rain]

Talk about a bullet with your name on it.
If the “etching” is proven not to harm the power or accuracy of said bullet,this law would only be useless and expensive for we,the SC taxpayers.
In the case of stolen or privately sold munitions,illegal use of same will cause honest citizens to suffer harassment or false arrest.
Sorry,but at least this boondoggle of ours is local—not like our worse boondoggle,Lindsey Graham,who makes the entire country suffer.

[holymoly]

No later than January 1, 2012, all noncoded ammunition owned by private citizens and retail outlets must be disposed.

I see the authors of this legislation have about as much respect for the Fifth Amendment, as they have for the Second Amendment.

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Fifth Amendment

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

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[Sender]

That is what would happen. Big ammo manufacturers aren't going to gear up for an expensive and beaurocratic program that subjects them to constant legal liability just to satisfy some law in one state or a handful of states. Such a program would also anger shooters in all 50 states, their customers. They would just say "no sales to SC".

Maybe that is the ultimate goal of such a law.

[TexanToTheCore]

These bills are being offred so fast that it leads me to believe that the company who holds the patent on the process has some investors in the wings waiting to hear whether the attempt will be successful.

Little chance of passage in SC, I would think.

[YOUGOTIT]

The Nazi are at it again: Or so it was written to me:

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

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It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,3 81 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

[aomagrat]

I think this is a coordinated nationwide democrat scheme, seeing as how similar laws have been introduced in state legislatures across the country in the past few months.

[Sender]

It would make such a grand default registration scheme for firearms. Say you buy a case of .223 ammo. Hmm, I wonder what kind of gun uses that? Now they are alerted to your name, address, drivers license, caliber, the quantity you bought, the date and the dealer. That could prove very useful if they later want to know where all the AR-15s are. Or they could just charge you with "hoarding", or as a suspect of being a psycho.

First, they want to know who you are, where you are and what you have. The rest, they can take care of after Barack or Hillary get elected.

[StormEye]

"B) A registered ammunition manufacturer shall maintain on its premises for a period of seven years records of all sales, loans, and transfers of ammunition to, from, or within this State.

(C) A registered ammunition vendor shall maintain a record of the following information regarding the sale of ammunition on its premises for three years:

(1) the date of transaction;

(2) the name of the transferee or purchaser;

(3) the purchaser's driver's license number, or another government issued identification card number;

(4) the date of birth of the purchaser;

(5) the unique identifier of all ammunition transferred "

Don't forget the buyer's underwear size "SLED".
And remember to ask when was the last time they washed their car. ---- What a bunch of totalitarian wannabe little Stalins!

[upchuck]

South Carolina Ping

Add me to the list. / Remove me from the list.

[cowboyway]

What was the motive for this POS bill?

And why are SC lawmakers trying to out liberal the liberals?

[U S Army EOD]

I wonder how the Lone Ranger would feel about this?

[sergeantdave]

“Finally, this week, Senator Dick Elliott (D-28) introduced S 1259...”

Going no where.

It’s rat legislation. He’s simply puffing up his cheeks to show off for his brain-dead, liberal constituents.

Every session Hastings, the fat, stupid commie from Florida, introduces a bill in the US House to ban handguns. Nothing happens. Just gives us a chance to bash the trash.

Same thing here in SC.

[Ray54]

(B) No later than January 1, 2012, all noncoded ammunition owned by private citizens and retail outlets must be disposed.

So the ol' boy that has been handloading in his basement for the last 20 years, and has thousands and thousands of rounds stashed away is all of a sudden a criminal after 01/01/12?

Or people that go to gun shows several times a year to stock up on cases of ammo?

I don't live in South Carolina, but I can see this coming to a state near everyone soon.

Insanity!