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The Chill is On
Investor's Business Daily ^ | April 4, 2008 | Editorial

Posted on 04/05/2008 7:29:34 AM PDT by moderatewolverine

The United Nations World Meteorological Organization is reporting that global temperatures have not risen since 1998. That would be the same temperatures that models from the U.N.'s Inter-Governmental Panel on Climate Change said would be scorching the earth into an unlivable wasteland — except for those coastal areas flooded by seas gorged with water from melting ice sheets.

Of course the IPCC spins the news.

"You should look at trends over a pretty long period," said WMO Secretary-General Michel Jarraud, "and the trend of temperature globally is still very much indicative of warming."

His explanation for the cool spell is the effect of the Pacific Ocean's La Nina current, "part of what we call 'variability.' "

If that's the case, then why can't the Pacific's El Nino current, which played a large part in the warm reading for 1998, simply been seen as a "variability" and not part of a greater warming trend? Because it doesn't fit the agenda?

(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorial.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; convenientfiction; convenientlie; globalcooling; globalwarming; un; world
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So...I guess now we have to worry about an ice age?
1 posted on 04/05/2008 7:29:34 AM PDT by moderatewolverine
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To: moderatewolverine

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.


2 posted on 04/05/2008 7:32:29 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Call BR-549)
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To: moderatewolverine; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; CygnusXI; Fiddlstix; Defendingliberty; ...
 


Global Warming Scam News & Views

3 posted on 04/05/2008 7:33:13 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: moderatewolverine

Related...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2008/04/global-warming-dips-this-year.html


4 posted on 04/05/2008 7:36:24 AM PDT by traderrob6
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So...I guess now we have to worry about an ice age?

Yeah - just like back in the '70's. And guess what - it'll still be man's fault, primarily due to people driving large SUV's. And the government will use this junk science to promote yet another tax/fee/expense upon the brainless drones that occupy this country. And the liberal, government-educated idiots will accept the theory de jour without question.

5 posted on 04/05/2008 7:36:37 AM PDT by meyer (Still conservative, no longer Republican)
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To: moderatewolverine
The global warming debate is not over. Indeed, the debate is beginning to favor the skeptics.
6 posted on 04/05/2008 7:37:29 AM PDT by Rocky
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To: moderatewolverine
No, you don't understand - global cooling is caused by global warming!
7 posted on 04/05/2008 7:39:30 AM PDT by sima_yi (Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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hahaha...wasn’t there a lot of people calling for putting something into our oceans to melt the ice caps to help prevent global cooling in the 70’s...I forget where I read that.


8 posted on 04/05/2008 7:42:04 AM PDT by moderatewolverine
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To: moderatewolverine

The Heat is On The Tennessee 2 x 4. Music to read this thread by.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q58bDPaslqw&feature=related

Al “Convenient Opinion” Gore is pressure treated.


9 posted on 04/05/2008 7:45:48 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: moderatewolverine
2007 marked the beginning of the end of the Glow-Bull Warming Hoax perpetrated by Algore and Lenny DiCaprio. 2008 will mark the end of the Hoax. Adults are now needed to put all this crap in perspective and at least have a sane approach to reduction of pollution, but not at the expense of taking us back to the 1700’s in terms of technology. The biggest part of the hoax (and indeed may have been unlawful) is the sham of “carbon credits” to line to pockets of the hoaxters.
10 posted on 04/05/2008 7:47:22 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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So...I guess now we have to worry about an ice age?

When I was a lad all the science museums, displays, publications were ranting about the coming ice age. I still have yet to give up that belief. We are going to be able to ice skate to cuba I tell ya !
11 posted on 04/05/2008 7:47:38 AM PDT by festus (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: moderatewolverine
2007 marked the beginning of the end of the Glow-Bull Warming Hoax perpetrated by Algore and Lenny DiCaprio. 2008 will mark the end of the Hoax. Adults are now needed to put all this crap in perspective and at least have a sane approach to reduction of pollution, but not at the expense of taking us back to the 1700’s in terms of technology. The biggest part of the hoax (and indeed may have been unlawful) is the sham of “carbon credits” to line to pockets of the hoaxters.
12 posted on 04/05/2008 7:48:30 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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Ironically all the things to stop global warming are the same that was needed to stop global cooling.

Become communists being the chief way to fix it.


13 posted on 04/05/2008 7:48:45 AM PDT by festus (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: moderatewolverine

Al Gore is going to have a lot of explaining to do...LOL


14 posted on 04/05/2008 8:02:22 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: moderatewolverine
If that's the case, then why can't the Pacific's El Nino current, which played a large part in the warm reading for 1998, simply been seen as a "variability" and not part of a greater warming trend?

Because La Nina is weather and El Nino is climate.

Get with the program or be defunded.

15 posted on 04/05/2008 8:05:07 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (Obama, the King of Hope-a-Dope)
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To: moderatewolverine

From the article: “You should look at trends over a pretty long period,” said WMO Secretary-General Michel Jarraud, “and the trend of temperature globally is still very much indicative of warming.”

It seems to me that for awhile these boobs were hyping 5 and 10 year trends as proof of man-made warming. Now, when that doesn’t pan out this clod suggests a longer period be observed. Just how long? Back to the point that makes their point appear valid and no further. But, if we go back even further say millenia(Earth is several billion years old and millenia are still merely a blink of the eye in comparison) one would note that the Earth has warmed and cooled many times without the assistance of burned fossil fuels.

I still don’t know what their explanation for this being man-made is. Look up Dansgaard-Oeschger events and you’ll find that 23 times in the past(20,000 years prior to the creation of the SUV) we have a record of rapid warming of 8 degrees celsius in one case over a few decades followed by a gradual return to previous temps over the next few hundred years. They don’t know what caused it and it was considerably more dramatic warming than now.

“The little ice age of ~400 to 200 years ago has been interpreted as the cold part of a D-O cycle, putting us (even without the effects anthropogenic global warming) in a period of warming climate” (Bond et al. 1999).


16 posted on 04/05/2008 8:06:35 AM PDT by Round 9
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global cooling is caused by global warming

After all, a normal climate should NEVER change.

It wouldn't be cooling if it hadn't warmed first...< / sarc >

17 posted on 04/05/2008 8:09:17 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: moderatewolverine

Not an ice age, but probably a Dalton minimum, which will be difficult enough with 6.5 billion people. Solar cycle 24 is late, and the longer solar cycle 23 lasts, the more likely it is to be a low one. Solar cycle 25 is definitely going to be one of the lowest in centuries because of the slowing of the Sun’s conveyor belts, which predates a low solar cycle by 20 years or so.

As for global warming alarmists, what happened was they mixed up cause and effect in looking at precipitation systems. They set up positive feedback loops in their models when the loops were actually _negative_ feedback loops. Roy Spencer has outlined this pretty succinctly at his website and in his scientific paper.

http://www.weatherquestions.com/Spencer_07GRL.pdf

http://www.weatherquestions.com/Roy-Spencer-on-global-warming.htm


18 posted on 04/05/2008 8:09:55 AM PDT by burster
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To: moderatewolverine

They had me worry about freezing to death when I was a youngster. Bunch of a-holes pulling a big scam is all this GW thing is,


19 posted on 04/05/2008 8:11:58 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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Now there are two people who are not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier.


20 posted on 04/05/2008 8:13:48 AM PDT by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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