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Seattle Police Department scheming to steal cops from the shrinking NYPD
The New York Daily News ^ | April 4, 2008 | MICHAEL WHITE

Posted on 04/04/2008 9:51:36 AM PDT by Stoat

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To: correctthought
Thanks guys,

It was one of the cities my wife and I were thinking of relocating to get out of NYC.

I was wondering if I was being unfair. Anyway, I think we like Vancouver (WA) better.

Thanks again.

You're quite welcome.  Eastern Washington is known for being 'the sane part' of Washington, with a high Republican percentage there, although the climate is completely different from the West, thanks to the Cascade mountain range.  Vancouver, although on the West side, is advantageous because it's so close to the Oregon border and people frequently drive across to do their shopping and avoid the Washington sales tax.  As a result, some retail industries may be a bit more depressed in Vancouver than in cities farther North.  That aside, Vancouver has a lot to offer and you 'probably' won't be seeing quite so many "Che!" t-shirts on scruffy hippies in the supermarkets there as you do in Seattle.

21 posted on 04/04/2008 11:35:33 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: correctthought

Vancouver is nice in that you pay no income tax as a Washington resident, but can take a five minute drive across the bridge to Oregon where there is no state sales tax.


22 posted on 04/04/2008 11:57:55 AM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: Stoat

In NYC, if you want an armed bodyguard, you pretty much have to hire a moonlighting NYC cop. This makes a nice supplement to their salaries.


23 posted on 04/04/2008 12:06:20 PM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625
In NYC, if you want an armed bodyguard, you pretty much have to hire a moonlighting NYC cop. This makes a nice supplement to their salaries.

Indeed that's great for them that they're able to supplement their meager income, but of course it's not so nice for NYC residents who can't afford hired bodyguard services.  One of the few advantages of Seattle is that law-abiding citizens are still able to defend themselves in a meaningful way as per the Constitution.

 

24 posted on 04/04/2008 12:17:46 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

If you want fine Italian food (fresh hand made sausage to order) you need to go to Viafore’s in Fircrest. Tell Michael that Ernie Jr. sent you.


25 posted on 04/04/2008 1:04:32 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (There once was a dream called, "Hippy Beat Down." The mere whisper of if caused cops to cry.")
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To: Clemenza

Met a lateral from Brooklyn about 8 hours ago in the report writing room.


26 posted on 04/04/2008 1:06:08 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (There once was a dream called, "Hippy Beat Down." The mere whisper of if caused cops to cry.")
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

I sincerely appreciate the recommendation, thank you! I confess that my furry stoat heart leapt a bit a first, thinking / hoping that you might be referring to the Fircrest neighborhood that’s barely a hippie’s sandal-toss away from the North Seattle stoat cave / bunker. Alas, it’s the Fircrest down in Tacoma which makes it about an hours’ drive for me so I will have to add it to my address book and I’ll make sure to stop in when I’m in that area next time. :-)


27 posted on 04/04/2008 1:53:16 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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Viafore's Italian Delicatessen - Fircrest, WA, 98466-7043 - Citysearch
604 Regents Blvd
Fircrest, WA 98466-7043
Phone: (253) 564-2228

28 posted on 04/04/2008 1:58:27 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat; TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Viafores is pretty good, though a bit of a drive. Ern recommended it to me when I moved out there. Good excuse as any for going to Pierce County.


29 posted on 04/04/2008 2:00:00 PM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: Stoat

If the said ex-NYC cops are liberal as all get-out, they’ll fit in fine.

If they are just the slightest bit conservative, they’re in for absolute hell on Earth.

I’d rather castrate myself with a dull, rusty spoon than live in Seattle. To paraphrase the late W.C. Fields: “On the whole, I’d rather be in Texas.”


30 posted on 04/04/2008 2:04:51 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Happily watching the Left go full-goose bozo.)
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To: Clemenza

I appreciate it, thank you. I’ll definitely drop in the next time I’m nearby.


31 posted on 04/04/2008 2:26:26 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: hoagy62

Most of the few sane folks I’ve had the fortune to meet in Seattle have been Seattle Police officers....their reality-based lives tend to keep them (at least the ones I’ve met) more toward the rational end of things. As is the case in most cities, however, once you get up into upper management, things tend to get further and further to the Left, as the Chief’s job in particular is very political and so by definition is going to be in sync with Seattle Administration, unfortunately.

This in turn is going to have it’s effect upon the Officers; it’s been cited to me by several when discussing their job satisfaction or lack thereof. Narurally I can’t speak for everyone, but several have cited the hard-Left politics of Seattle as being primary reasons of why they either wanted to leave or didn’t want to pursue career advancement. Conservative and reality-oriented NYC Officers will probably find many like-minded folks among the Seattle Police officers, but they’ll have the same troubles as the rest of us Conservatives when it comes to building friendships among the general population here.

There are many reasons why I’d rather be in Texas as well, although I’ve become acclimated to the damp and gray climate here :-)


32 posted on 04/04/2008 2:38:58 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

But then they’ll be a member of the Seattle Police Department.


33 posted on 04/04/2008 2:41:32 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Stoat

You can do like us, buy 20lbs of sausage at a throw, then not have to drive as often. They have a great selection of sausages and cheeses and other delicious items that they bring back from Italy 2x per year.

They make fresh pasta, raviolis, etc. as well.

Best bet is to go on a day you don’t have to work, order up your sausage prior (fennel/no fennel etc.) and then pick it up while having a great sandwich for lunch.


34 posted on 04/04/2008 7:29:09 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (There once was a dream called, "Hippy Beat Down." The mere whisper of if caused cops to cry.")
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

What a wonderful idea!

Thank you :-)


35 posted on 04/04/2008 9:26:35 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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UPDATE

Seattle not shy about luring NYPD cops

Seattle not shy about luring NYPD cops

Saturday, April 5th 2008, 4:00 AM

Seattle police officials are not apologizing for attempting to steal cops from the NYPD by offering the city's Finest more money and a salary bonus to move.

"Police officers are free agents now," Sgt. Richard O'Neill, the head of the Seattle Police Officers Guild, told the Daily News. "Take a page from A-Rod.

"It's no secret that agencies across the nation are recruiting," O'Neill added. "Any time you can get an experienced officer, that's a big savings."

In a front-page exclusive, The News revealed Friday that the Seattle Police Department is paying for a huge billboard along the West Side Highway and papering bus shelters with recruiting ads.

Seattle is offering police recruits a $5,000 bonus to help cover moving expenses - and cops interested in applying don't even have to leave New York to take Seattle's written police exam.

The test is being offered April 19 at New York University. Of the 223 people who have signed up, about 20 are city cops, Seattle police said.

Seattle pays its recruits $47,334 a year, and the annual salary rises to a maximum pay of $67,045 after six years. NYPD recruits get a paltry $25,100 annual salary while they are in the academy. Their pay jumps to $32,800 after graduation and tops out at $59,588 after seven years.

The pay disparity is expected to get even larger, O'Neill said.

Seattle's officers are mere weeks away from signing a new contract that "will make us the highest paid" in Washington State, O'Neill said.

The recruiting billboard on the West Side Highway near 54th St. cost Seattle just $7,500. Unveiled a few days ago, it declares "A Job Like No Other" above the address for the department's recruiting Web site.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly has blamed the NYPD's starting salary for hurting recruitment. The pay scale was imposed by an arbitration panel in 2005 after the city and police union couldn't reach a deal.

Patrick Lynch, president of the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, said Seattle isn't alone in coveting NYPD cops.

"The NYPD spends $100,000 on every cop it recruits," Lynch said. "Other departments swoop in, and they benefit from that experience - as well as [from] a police officer whose morale has increased tenfold, who can focus on policing and not racing to his second or third job."

agendar@nydailynews.com


36 posted on 04/05/2008 2:30:46 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Baynative
I'm wondering how to do statistical correlation through data research to find if some assumptions I've made are correct.

it seems like the more liberal a city is, the poorer their schools are, the cost of living is higher, taxes are higher and crime is worse.

Although your assumptions are borne out every day, as evidenced by endless news reports detailing the utter failures of liberal / Left policies, I'm sure that it can be reflected in an analytical way as well.  May I suggest that first of all, before you spend untold hours reinventing the wheel, to check the websites of various Conservative think tanks such as The Heritage Foundation, The American Enterprise Institute, etc. etc..  If they don't offer the data presented in a manner that you're looking for and you want to pursue this project I can offer a few preliminary suggestions but please be advised that I don't do this for a living and stoats are generally not noted for having exceptional abilities in this arena  :-)


38 posted on 04/05/2008 1:33:52 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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