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To: houstonman58
Neither President Bush or General Pace is in either of those qoutes. The only thing you're citing is what two men did based on news reports to back up your assumption of what two other men did.

In other words, you're guessing that Bush ordered Pace to intiate PC training, but you don't know. It could have been Navy Secretary Winters, the DOD, and who knows, maybe it was Bush, with or without any input from his Generals in the field, but you haven't proven it. All you did was throw in a guess and a rant in a forum where a heck of a lot of people are spending a tremendous amount of time trying to find out what really happened, and exactly who is responsible.

There's nothing wrong with a good guess and a great rant, just don't claim them to be fact unless you can prove it.

68 posted on 04/04/2008 1:07:22 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (defendourtroops.org defendourmarines.org)
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To: 4woodenboats
"Neither President Bush or General Pace is in either of those qoutes. The only thing you're citing is what two men did based on news reports to back up your assumption of what two other men did."

Generals don't have the authority to randomly initiate such massive PC training for 140,000 troops, all of them in a war zone. Only a fool would believe that two high ranking generals could formulate and initiate this training without authority from the high command, (General Pace). And even Pace would need to inform the Secretary of Defense, who in turn would get Bush's OK. And since this whole thing is about political correctness you can rest assured that Bush either ordered it or at least OK'd it. And neither would, nor could the generals do such a thing without notifying the Secretary of Defense for his approval. So no matter how you slice it, the CiC either formed it himself, had his military high command formulate it, or gave it his seal of approval.

Now, even if your assumption is correct, and it certainly is not, then we can at least lay the claim that two high ranking generals spoke words and took action that would tend to make the accused Marines at Haditha look guilty. They made strong, pointed comments about "investigating all allegations of abuse and unauthorized use of force", and such statements as "we will prosecute any soldier who is alleged by Iraqi authorities of committing these crimes." Those were paraphrases, but the damning content is accurate, and the statements were made in the immediate aftermath of the Haditha allegations. These Generals damned those brave Marines before they even had a trial, or had a chance to speak. And the generals could not have made such public statements, or inaugurated the massive PC training for all troops in Iraq and stationed elsewhere, without authorization from the highest command, the CiC.

70 posted on 04/05/2008 11:27:30 AM PDT by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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