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To: olezip
"While the leftist tactics worked in the tail hook scandal, perhaps it will not work this time. Our Marines are heroes and should be receiving awards instead of unjustified trauma for them and their loved ones. All because of seditious action by a congressman thug and the Marxist media."

The CiC gets far too much of a pass around here. Wasn't it this very alleged 'incident' that prompted Jorge Bush to, (almost immediately), order General Pace to institute a PC training course for the Marines regarding the rights, culture and feeeeelings of the locals? This action itself created an atmosphere of guilt on the part of the brave Marines charged in this travesty. There has never been another war in U.S. history that took so many of our bravest and best and placed them on trial for alleged 'war crimes', (something that is typically reserved for conquering armies to do to the enemy, by the way). And this the best, most highly trained force ever. The fish rots from the head down, and this disgusting attack on our Army and Marine troops goes far beyond Jack Murtha, it begins with the stupid PC rules of engagement and the eggshells that our troops have had to tread upon in this war.

War is supposed to be an endeavor that destroys the enemy and obliterates every place they are found hiding in. IMHO, Bush never had the stomach for a real war, he wanted a limited, PC, no-collateral-damage 'war', and that's the essense of how and why so very many of our bravest and best have found themselves languishing in various briggs and stockades. They've been fighting this war with a millstone around their necks.

21 posted on 04/03/2008 5:43:03 AM PDT by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: houstonman58
Wasn't it this very alleged 'incident' that prompted Jorge Bush to, (almost immediately), order General Pace to institute a PC training course for the Marines regarding the rights, culture and feeeeelings of the locals

There's a lot of frustration with President Bush and a lot of questions unanswered right now, but unless you can cite something substantial to support that claim, you're spreading urban legends.

FWIW, it has been reported that the Marines had been using Haditha as a "what not to do" in some of their training before any of the Article 32s were done, but no indication from any source that I know of that President Bush personally ordered it.

33 posted on 04/03/2008 7:53:26 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (defendourtroops.org defendourmarines.org)
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