I get the sense you respect Hillary more than you respect Obama.
Off the record?
Please don't go off the record.
Off the record [Yeah, it's good. Sorry.]
Damn! Now say that on the record.
No. Nope. Nope. Nope.
Let's try again, then: on the record. I get the sense you respect her more than him.
Uh, I know her better than I know him. And I just, uhshe has been around public life a lot longer and has demonstrated, you know, more involvement than he has.