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1 posted on 04/01/2008 12:34:18 PM PDT by OESY
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Remember Jon F’n Cary said nothing bad happened in SE Asia after we left.


2 posted on 04/01/2008 12:37:24 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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Someone just lost a job.


3 posted on 04/01/2008 12:37:59 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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If we listen to the likes of Jon Carry and Pogue REMF Murtha, and cut and run like a bunch of limpwristed, effeminate fairies, the slaughter in the Middle East will dwarf anything seen in SE Asia in the 1970’s, plus the Islamofascists will follow us to our own doorsteps.


4 posted on 04/01/2008 1:03:41 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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KerrySenate

congrecord

Vietnam and South Asia

http://www.neoperspectives.com/kerryvietnam.htm

When asked about possible repercussions against the South Vietnamese Kerry answered:

"Having done what we have done to that country, we have an obligation to offer sanctuary to the perhaps 2,000, 3,000 people who might face political assassination or something else."

That same week, he appeared on the Dick Cavett show. "There'd be no interest on the part of the Vietnamese to start massacring people after the U.S. has pulled out," Kerry told Cavett.

In his testimony to the Senate Kerry said:

"[Y]es, there will be some recrimination, but far, far less than the 200,000 a year who are murdered by the United States of America.."

Prior to 1975 the North Vietnamese Communists had already killed between 50,000-100,000 of their own citizens in purges, terrors and 'land reforms'. (3) Upon reuniting their country, the North Vietnamese killed or sent to labor camps hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese citizens.

Millions of refugees have since fled Vietnam. Known as 'the boat people', they sought refuge wherever they could. At least 100,000 people drowned fleeing the Communists. Others were attacked by pirates, or were repatriated to the hellish labor camps of Vietnam.

Today, over 1.2 million South Vietnamese refugees live in the United States. Yet Kerry seemed to believe the primary threat to the Vietnamese people was that posed by the armed forces of the United States.

In December 1975, just months after Saigon fell, the government of neighboring Laos fell to a Vietnamese backed Communist force. Hundreds of thousands were killed in war, famine and political assassination . The Hmong tribespeople, loyal American allies before the pullout, were decimated, an estimated ten per cent of them were killed by Communist forces.

On April 17th, 1975 the Khmer Rouge, a Communist guerrilla group led by Pol Pot, overthrew the US backed government (weakened by the US withdrawal) with the help of the North Vietnamese government and China.

They forced all city dwellers into the countryside and to labor camps. During their rule, it is estimated that 2 million Cambodians died by starvation, torture or execution. 2 million Cambodians represented approximately 30% of the Cambodian population during that time.

In sum, the American withdrawal left over 3 million dead and caused millions more to flee their homes.

Today South East Asia is still impoverished and undemocratic. Growing up, we are taught that the 'domino effect' was a foolish, flawed theory.

In reality, it was a perfect predictor of what came to pass. South Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia fell to the Communists within a year. Burma battled Communists insurgencies, even while embarking on an even harsher form of socialism that starved it's population. Communist insurgencies, although not ultimately successful, increased in intensity in Thailand. It's possible that Communism could have spread even further and the insurgencies been more successful if the newly formed Communist nations hadn't turned on each other in another orgy of violence.

As these events unfolded, America suffered a terrible weakening of our national pride and our moral leadership in the world was shaken. We were not defeated on the battlefield, we were defeated by weak national leadership and by public opinion here at home. Kerry has never apologized for his actions or testimony, although he admitted he 'used a poor choice of words'.

The question remains, what can we expect if we “bug out” once again from Iraq and Afganistan as we did in Vietnam???

How many millions of refuges will this capitulation produce (which of course, the majority will end up here) and how many deaths will result as well.


5 posted on 04/01/2008 1:14:33 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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Rest in Peace, Brave Soul.


7 posted on 04/01/2008 1:36:06 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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